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    Raimo Järvi @Ze Stuart
    last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 21:11

    @Ze-Stuart said in Suunto ZoneSense:

    @Raimo-Järvi I believe you are a deity of S+, do you have a date you can share for the fix?

    I don’t work for Suunto any more, I’m a mere mortal now 😁 I don’t have any additional information about this, but if Janne says it will be fixed in “upcoming mobile update”, I guess the fix is in Suunto (mobile) app and not in SuuntoPlus.

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      enriqueescoms
      last edited by enriqueescoms 25 Sept 2024, 05:57

      Updated.

      My 33% 25% “good experience” with ZONESENSE.

      (Suunto 9PP + PolarH10 heart belt / IOS App v2.38)

      The last few days I have tried Zonesense three four times with the following performance results:

      1. Mountain bike. No route tracking. Autopause triggered. Guide Structured work. WATCH FAIL (*) / APP OK
      2. Mountain bike. With route tracking. No pause. No other guides. WATCH OK / APP OK
      3. Trail running. With route tracking. Pause. No other guides. WATCH OK / APP FAIL (**)
      4. Running. With route tracking. With route tracking. No pause. Guide Structured work. WATCH OK / APP FAIL (***)

      (*) On the watch, the zone sense screen only indicated zone 1, regardless of heart rate or effort level, without the zone gauge moving. Later, however, in the app, the different zones were identified with colors and the thresholds were marked, etc.

      (**) On the watch, everything worked perfectly, as expected from the Suunto+, indicating the times in each zone, the gauge indicating the appropriate section, etc. But then nothing appeared in the app, as if nothing had been registered.

      (***) This time it worked well on the watch, pointing out the areas that seemed to be appropriate for the perceived effort and heart rate. However, the transfer to the app does not match what is seen on the watch. The data is only partial and it appears as if there is a shift to the right.

      Anyway, dispite is a promising feature that hasn’t worked consistently for me yet. In fact I belive there is definitely some error behind it. Otherwise I’ll keep trying over the next few days.

      Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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        Francesco Pagano Silver Members Bronze Member @enriqueescoms
        last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 09:39

        @enriqueescoms said in Suunto ZoneSense:

        The data is only partial and it appears as if there is a shift to the right

        @enriqueescoms in the App the ZoneSense graph is always shifted to the right since the first 10 minutes are only used for calibration. I hope this is what you’re referring to.
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          enriqueescoms @Francesco Pagano
          last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 10:10

          @Francesco-Pagano I´m afraid not.

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          On the watch, the Zonesense started working, as expected, after the first 10 minutes of warm-up/calibration. But look at the graph, it starts after the 20 minute mark. Also, it only shows the aerobic zone (100% -18min). Which is not true because it does not reflect the anaerobic zone and VO2max zone, which were also present. And beyond that, it is not possible that the total was 18min when the activity lasted 49min.

          Something is wrong somewhere. And I can’t find a pattern. Because out of 4 attempts it has failed in 3 and each one in a different way.

          Thanks, however, for your contribution.

          Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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            isazi Moderator
            last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 10:26

            The data in the mobile app should be computed by the mobile app itself, not the S+ app, as far as I know. You have the graph and all the other info even if you do not use the S+ app. So, better not to mix the two sides, and discuss the S+ app here.

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              enriqueescoms @isazi
              last edited by enriqueescoms 25 Sept 2024, 10:32

              @isazi said in Suunto ZoneSense:

              The data in the mobile app should be computed by the mobile app itself, not the S+ app, as far as I know. You have the graph and all the other info even if you do not use the S+ app. So, better not to mix the two sides, and discuss the S+ app here.

              @isazi What do you mean? That it’s a bug in the ios app and I should report it in an mobile app issues thread? Or what? 🙄

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                Sergei Ladeishchikov Bronze Member @isazi
                last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 10:37

                @isazi Shouldn’t the mobile app and S+ be the same? By the way, in my case the calculation in the app starts after 10 minutes of warm-up, and in the last long run after 2 hours the graph ends (total duration 3 hours). Could this be due to poor quality data from the heart rate belt? There is no such problem in short workouts up to 1 hour. I use H10.

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                  chee ee jordan lo @Christoph13
                  last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 11:11

                  @Christoph13 hmm doesn’t work for me. I even tried to uninstall and install. I wonder if the latest app version has been pushed to all AppStore’s. I’m in singapore and my app is 2.38.0

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                    isazi Moderator @enriqueescoms
                    last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 12:47

                    @enriqueescoms said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                    @isazi What do you mean? That it’s a bug in the ios app and I should report it in an mobile app issues thread? Or what? 🙄

                    What you see in the mobile app does not come come from the S+ app, so you should report it in the iOS app (in your case).

                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                    Blog: isazi's home

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                      isazi Moderator @Sergei Ladeishchikov
                      last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 12:49

                      @Sergei-Ladeishchikov said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                      @isazi Shouldn’t the mobile app and S+ be the same?

                      Not really, the mobile app can do better filtering as it has the full workout available, so results may be different. The goal is for them to be close enough, and the S+ app should learn the coefficients better the more you use it. This is what I have understood so far.

                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                      Blog: isazi's home

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                        halajos Bronze Member @isazi
                        last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 12:58

                        @isazi do you know if we get an updated ZoneSense S+ or firmware soon, which fixes the issues with using ZoneSense together with other S+ or intensity target, what a couple of us experienced and discussed in the forum?

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                          isazi Moderator @halajos
                          last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 13:05

                          @halajos some glitches of the app have been reported, and S+ apps can be updated any time without the need for a firmware update

                          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                          Blog: isazi's home

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                            enriqueescoms @isazi
                            last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 13:51

                            @isazi Well, anyway, could you be so kind as to report this to Suunto as well? I would appreciate it. Thanks. 🙏

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                              halajos Bronze Member @isazi
                              last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 14:12

                              @isazi said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                              @halajos S+ apps can be updated any time without the need for a firmware update

                              I know that, but as in my experience there are interferences between ZoneSense and another S+ app (ultra walking), as well as between ZoneSense and intensity target, I’m wondering if there may be a need to update the “S+ framework” in base firmware.

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                                SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @chee ee jordan lo
                                last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 14:20

                                @chee-ee-jordan-lo I have still the same problem, the ZoneSense±App in the Watch shows data during the workout… but there is no data shown in the SA 2.38.0…
                                I had 3 attempts with a custom made sports mode based on Trail Running, and I saw the the data in the watch, but no data in SA in my iPhone
                                I had only one attempt with another custom made sport mode bases on hiking, where I saw data in my phone…
                                It‘s crazy because I think the Heart rate belt is working because if not I would Not See data in the Watch app, and the Phone app seems to work because I saw data there one time?
                                Is it possible that it depends on the sports mode?

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                                  raceaddict Bronze Member @SuperFlo75
                                  last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 15:08

                                  @SuperFlo75

                                  See here https://forum.suunto.com/post/154325

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                                    martintrail Silver Members
                                    last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 15:54

                                    I am very happy with every run as ZoneSense works. Today intervals uphill and for me it works beautifully and matches the feelings.d88259a3-e9c3-45b8-8481-fc3d5887a855-obrazek.png

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                                      claudiotereso @martintrail
                                      last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 16:03

                                      @martintrail said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                      I am very happy with every run as ZoneSense works. Today intervals uphill and for me it works beautifully and matches the feelings.d88259a3-e9c3-45b8-8481-fc3d5887a855-obrazek.png

                                      Can you show print with zonesense and HR?

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                                        VoiGAS Silver Members @martintrail
                                        last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 16:44

                                        @martintrail Wow, that looks great! I tried it for two workouts so far, but neither the S+ nor the App shows values that could make sense. How many workouts did it take to get such results?


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                                          martintrail Silver Members @VoiGAS
                                          last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 17:46

                                          @VoiGAS this was my fourth or fifth run, I think.

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