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    • SvenSchroeterS Offline
      SvenSchroeter @Kramble
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      @Kramble - charged and updated my wifes RACE last night, gave it a full charge until this morning at 7am and its running on its own reserves now. Lets see how long it goes with the ALWAYS ON display ticking over the time all day every day

      Suunto Vertical Ti Solar (Daily)
      Suunto Race (Wife Daily)
      Retired: Suunto Ambit3 / Ambit / Core

      https://www.strava.com/athletes/142980701

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      • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
        Александр Даниленко @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Software update 2.37.48:

        @Александр-Даниленко We removed this feature because it was not working as expected. I think I had replied to you. Now it works as it all swim wall clocks work

        Moreover, I can say the SuuntoPlus app “SwimTimer” working worse comparing to this clock screen.

        I feel like there is a delay between actual rest beginning and when “SwimTimer” starts counting it. It is around 3-8 sec, because the watch need some time to calculate interval time/distance and only after that “SwimTimer” starts its rest counting.

        The clock screen after calculation of interval time/distance just shown the moment when he think you stopped and on my experience it was more accurate for estimating your rest time.

        Also, “SwimTimer” has a problem with set counting. I really don’t understand the logic, because it resets to 0 whenever he wants, even if you don’t change intervals distance and swimming style.

        So I would say on my opinion, after using both, clockwatch and SwimTimer, in tens of my training sessions, I liked the clockwatch screen more. But now, when it’s main feature removed, I really don’t understand why we need the clockwatch screen.

        However, still I would be really glad if Suunto “repair” it.

        Suunto Race S

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        • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
          Александр Даниленко @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by Александр Даниленко

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Software update 2.37.48:

          @Александр-Даниленко Now it works as it all swim wall clocks work

          The reason why we see the clockwatch on the wall in the swimming pool, because some people don’t take the watch to the pool, especially professionals, but they need to count their interval/rest time somehow. But when you have watch on the hand, you don’t need that clockwatch anymore. Only if it doesn’t provide you anything new.

          That red indicator, which shown you when you stop was that feature why we needed to use this screen.

          Btw, Suunto could improve it by adding, for example, blue indicator, which could show you the moment, when you start interval.

          In swimming training sessions there are 2 kinds of interval swimming:

          1. When you need to control you rest time.
          2. When you have a fixed time for each swimming+rest.

          For example, if the main set is 10×100m and you pace is ~1’30/100m, in 1st case it could be 10×100m with 30s rest, in the 2nd case 10×100m with 2 minutes regime. So you start swimming 100m, end it and then start, when 2 minutes pass from the start of previous interval. So it is ~1’30+0’30=2 min. If you do 100m in 1’27, you will have 33s rest, etc.

          I believe everything was working good, and Suunto had a room for improvements there. But instead…I really don’t understand what is the point.

          Suunto Race S

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          • kriskusK Offline
            kriskus Bronze Member @Александр Даниленко
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            @Александр-Даниленко In general these watches aren’t perfect for swimming - they also lack the drills mode which is helpful for example when you train legs only. Because of no arm movement the distance isn’t counted and cannot be manually adjusted (and it was possible in the Ambit series).

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            • Todd DanielczykT Offline
              Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
              Thank you, I ran a quick check yesterday and it seems like the battery drain from navigation hanging is fixed.
              https://forum.suunto.com/post/155242

              I reset the watch after the update to make sure i didn’t see a battery calibration error and only saw a 3% drop which is what I’ve experienced in the past after a similar day/ activity.

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              • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
                Александр Даниленко @kriskus
                last edited by Александр Даниленко

                @kriskus yes, there are many other problems, which I described here:
                https://forum.suunto.com/post/129066

                But it is not good, when company not only not fixing existing problems, but also creating new.

                In general still I like suunto watch in swimming. For example, as far as I saw comparing with other users, suunto has better automatic intervals distance/time calculation, than garmin.

                Suunto Race S

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                  false Bronze Member @Александр Даниленко
                  last edited by

                  @Александр-Даниленко

                  But it is not good, when company not only fixing existing problems, but also creating new

                  …with every new update

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                    fritzbt2013 Bronze Member
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                    Any solution for this :

                    “Update started on watch (race s). I got an error message saying it failed and recovered. Now watch says it is up to date with version2.37.34 and will not let me try update again. iPhone app say watch software package download. For 2.37.48. …”

                    Is there a way to manually download and force this update?

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                    • Antanas VA Offline
                      Antanas V @fritzbt2013
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                      @fritzbt2013 said in Software update 2.37.48:

                      Any solution for this :

                      “Update started on watch (race s). I got an error message saying it failed and recovered. Now watch says it is up to date with version2.37.34 and will not let me try update again. iPhone app say watch software package download. For 2.37.48. …”

                      Is there a way to manually download and force this update?

                      Got same issue…

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                      • Mff73M Offline
                        Mff73 @Antanas V
                        last edited by Mff73

                        @Antanas-V and @fritzbt2013
                        without being sure of what i will say, if i were in your case, i would try (at your own risk) :
                        1- see which FW packages are effectively in my watch.with the service menu (settings/general/about, then scroll down until the bottom, release button, and then long press bottom button)
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                        2- if new FW is in watch, try to update from there (which i never did 😉 ). If it is not working, i would delete the new FW package from the same menu and go to point 3.
                        3- if new FW is not in watch, i would uninstall suunto app and reinstall it and retry FW update process.

                        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                        Suunto Vertical all black
                        Wife : S9PP
                        SA: Always the latest beta :)
                        Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                          fritzbt2013 Bronze Member @Mff73
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                          @Mff73 thank you! Success at step 2, appreciate the detailed instructions.

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                            Mff73 @fritzbt2013
                            last edited by Mff73

                            @fritzbt2013 said in Software update 2.37.48:

                            @Mff73 thank you! Success at step 2, appreciate the detailed instructions.

                            great. but now i am reading this again 🙂 , i ask myself one question : if proper FW package was well in your watch, didn’t you have already access to the normal “update FW” menu in settings/general ?
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                            Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                            Suunto Vertical all black
                            Wife : S9PP
                            SA: Always the latest beta :)
                            Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                              fritzbt2013 Bronze Member @Mff73
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                              @Mff73 I did. Initially it behaved normally and started installing the new version. After the update fail it showed with the greyed text( as u have shown) and if I selected it it would say I was up to date even though my version was the older one.

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                              • Antanas VA Offline
                                Antanas V @fritzbt2013
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                                @fritzbt2013 same thing!

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                                • Antanas VA Offline
                                  Antanas V @Mff73
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                                  @Mff73 Thank You! Success at step 2, too.

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                                  • herlasH Offline
                                    herlas Silver Members @Александр Даниленко
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                                    @Александр-Даниленко @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos my vote here to bring it back, it was working fine for me as well. That swim wall clock screen is so epic, please bring the marker back 🙏.

                                    SRS Ti
                                    A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
                                    Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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                                      karmazynowycukiereczek @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Software update 2.37.48:

                                      SUUNTO RACE S / SUUNTO RACE / SUUNTO VERTICAL / SUUNTO 9 PEAK PRO

                                      Staged update starting on October 2nd 2024

                                      Bug fixes:

                                      • Fixed cases where sleep tracking and OHR stopped working
                                      • Fixed a case where pool swim distance was wrong in logbook
                                      • Fixed a case where power consumption remained high after navigation

                                      Only I have after this update problem with speed tracking? Today I wanted to track my trip in Italy (mountains and hard terrain) and all time it was showing 10-20km/h, while in phone (I downloaded some app) it was like 2-5km/h.

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                                      • AntoineA Offline
                                        Antoine Bronze Member @SvenSchroeter
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                                        @SvenSchroeter said in Software update 2.37.48:

                                        @Antoine Am noticing much the same, suunto vertical and in the first 12Hrs I dropped 1% from a full charge (Hr active + blood oxygen), no activity. Now that my day has started and wrist buzz is humming along nicely to the arrival of new emails and msgs… I hope to see less than 5% for today (including a 1hr gps activity).

                                        Same configuration as you.
                                        6% in 36h with one run of 50 minutes.
                                        HR active, blood oxygen, only bip but no buzz, no backlight. No navigation tested yet.

                                        Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                                          misu763 Bronze Member
                                          last edited by misu763

                                          SPP9 Updated tonight…it recorded just 1 h of sleep…in the hope it was because the updating.

                                          S9PP Ti Slate

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                                          • Ars VitaeA Offline
                                            Ars Vitae Bronze Member @karmazynowycukiereczek
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                                            @karmazynowycukiereczek Silly question, but didn’t you confuse the unit of pace in min/km with speed in km/h? The result would more or less match if the first value is min/km and the second is km/h.

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