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      altcmd Silver Members @Egika
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      @Egika kinda makes the usecase for having titanium pointless. Just like how garmin did with the 965 - titanium frame handicapped by a cheap gorilla glass. So much for durability!

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        Ze Stuart Gold Members @altcmd
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        @altcmd except for people who have skin that reacts to stainless steel… (me!)

        https://zulusierra.co

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          Egika Platinum Member @altcmd
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          @altcmd again. Titanium is not there for ruggedness. Screen material is independent from body material.
          All Verticals for example have Sapphire regardless of steel or TI body.
          All Race S have Gorilla Glass regardless of steel or TI.

          BTW. I have just ordered my TI Race S this morning. It will arrive tomorrow 🥳

          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
          Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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            altcmd Silver Members @Egika
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            @Egika clearly - aesthetics over practicality.

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              Egika Platinum Member @altcmd
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              @altcmd different offers for different users.

              t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
              Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Egika
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                @Egika have fun with your gorilla glas. 😵‍💫

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                  Egika Platinum Member @Sportsfreund
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                  @Sportsfreund I don’t get the fuzz.
                  Have been wearing Race S steel with the same glass since February. Also for rock climbing, via ferrata etc.
                  No scratch whatsoever on the glass.
                  If I hadn’t tested the steel version successfully, I would not have gotten the TI

                  t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                  Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                    iqbal.twkl
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                    hello i have using suunto race s about 3 weeks. and i have problem with auto pause. when i trail running it wont to start when i running it still paused so i lost about 3km in that trail running. and after that i using it for cycling, i had same issue about autopause, it jumped when i ridding about 50kilometers i stopped for buy drink, when i start again it jumped to 80km and when autopause traffic it jump to 100km, i still on 80km that time in garmin. i confussed about autopause trash, hope it fixed in next update software

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                      freeheeler @Egika
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                      @Egika
                      ordered the Race S for my wife, too.
                      I am very convinced by this model and its value to money ratio.
                      I’ve been using my one a lot, too in the past months and it’s still looking brand new.

                      living sideways

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                        Jeffrey Tillack Bronze Member
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                        Had my Race S about 6 weeks now, and it’s been really fantastic.

                        However, the software hasn’t been as reliable as my old trusty Baro. Right at this moment I’m having to reset the watch for the 3rd time since purchase, deleting the 6GB of maps I have on it (which requires around 6 hours to load).

                        It seems on every occasion, the screen (on raise to wake) goes black, and requires a press of the crown to get things visible. Nothing fixes it. If I go to Display settings the AOD display check button is enabled, but the button is not available to actually change (the wording is greyed out) and as a consequence the button can’t be accessed. Man! it’s annoying.

                        Secondly, the oHR has been terrible. Almost as bad as my Apple Ultra 2 which is rubbish. However I always wear a strap so it’s not a deal breaker.

                        Other than the above, I love the watch. It’s just frustrating. I won’t bother reloading the maps, I just don’t have the patience anymore.

                        Suunto 7
                        Suunto 9 Baro
                        Garmin Instinct
                        Garmin Forerunner 245M
                        Polar M200 (retired)
                        Coros Pace (retired)

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                          Kramble @Jeffrey Tillack
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                          @Jeffrey-Tillack Did you soft (12 s upper button) or hard reset ?
                          When I soft rest, it doesn’t delete the maps.

                          Ambit 3 peak saphir
                          Spartan Ultra (sold)
                          S7 graphite copper
                          S9 peak all black
                          Vertical titanium green forest
                          Wings

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                            Jeffrey Tillack Bronze Member @Kramble
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                            @Kramble ugh didn’t think to try that. 😭

                            Suunto 7
                            Suunto 9 Baro
                            Garmin Instinct
                            Garmin Forerunner 245M
                            Polar M200 (retired)
                            Coros Pace (retired)

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                              matt-r
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                              Hello everyone,
                              First of all, I’ll start by saying that I’ve been a Suunto user for 2 years – I was using my old Suunto 5. After such a long time, even though the watch works fairly well, I decided to treat myself to a new one. I chose the Suunto Race S.
                              What it “offers” was enough for me to upgrade from my previous usage, but hey, we need to evolve.
                              How wrong I was…

                              Suunto Race S – the CN version – sorry for the term, it’s a waste of money. At least with the update 2.37.48, because that’s the update the watch forced right after starting it and connecting it to the app.
                              I don’t even know if what I’m going to describe below is related to the update, the place of production, or just the overall terrible watch…
                              First, what’s already been mentioned on the forum – the sleep tracking doesn’t work. At all! Neither naps nor night sleep – nothing. What does this mean? There’s no way to collect data for HRV…
                              Second – the heart rate for the whole day is not correctly transmitted to the app. The same goes for steps. I suspect, because these three pieces of information are all in one place – recovery – something’s wrong with the app vs watch function.
                              So, in my case, the entire “recovery” panel ends up being empty.
                              What’s even stranger, the running steps are shown on the app in the “steps” tile, but they are not included in the “Activity” tab.

                              It’s hard to believe this watch is so popular…?

                              I read a statement in this discussion: “Suunto is not Garmin.” Maybe, I don’t know what Garmin is like and I’m not interested. But I SPENT MY OWN MONEY to buy from this manufacturer, and explanations that “it’s not that accurate” – sure, it might not be precise, it doesn’t have to be – BUT IT DOESN’T WORK AT ALL!
                              Someone said: “Well, you should measure heart rate with a chest strap anyway.” Sure, I’ve been using it from the start, but then why does the manufacturer include it in the watch, so heavily advertising the HRV feature, if it causes so many problems? Wouldn’t it have been better to make a true RACE watch – without all the “extras,” but with 100% working RACE features – let’s call them sport functions – save the space for a bigger battery and there you go, a “perfect” watch.
                              Instead, I got a new piece of junk, which from my point of view is worth less than my old Suunto 5.

                              You can criticize me – maybe everything works fine for you, maybe it’s because of the production being moved to CN? What about the watches you describe that “everything works” – where are they made?

                              I don’t know… I know one thing – I am VERY DISAPPOINTED with this purchase. Since the watch was bought at an electronics store, I can’t return it.

                              Maybe I’ll just stir up a storm in a teacup, I don’t mind. Maybe this will make the manufacturer PAY ATTENTION THAT SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG.
                              Matt

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                                taziden Gold Members @matt-r
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                                @matt-r said in Suunto Race S general discussion:

                                Maybe I’ll just stir up a storm in a teacup, I don’t mind. Maybe this will make the manufacturer PAY ATTENTION THAT SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG.

                                Maybe saying all this to Suunto’s official support would me more hopeful than posting here. Something is obviously wrong with your watch and it should be replaced/repaired or whatever Suunto’s support deems fit.

                                S9PP

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                                  Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @matt-r
                                  last edited by Todd Danielczyk

                                  @matt-r I first want to state I can understand your frustration; you buy a product to work.

                                  One thing I noted with my Vertical is I was getting inconsistent HRV/Sleep until I set my resting heart rate up higher in the watch. I will need to search for the post I made in this regard but that may be something to try. Once it was raised I was getting much better data and may help you in this case.

                                  Once I find my post I will update this to give you an idea of how much from baseline I moved the resting HR.

                                  Edited for post hunting
                                  https://forum.suunto.com/post/145843
                                  Bumped up my resting HR 7 points and got cleaner data

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                                    matt-r @taziden
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                                    @taziden Of course, I have already written directly to support, but seeing that my problems are not isolated, I decided to highlight a series of issues. Maybe not for those of you who already have the watch and are satisfied – congratulations on getting a good piece – but for those in Poland, for example, who might find this forum before purchasing and consider not just what the manufacturer describes, or what is so positively reviewed on platforms like YouTube for models produced in Finland.

                                    It turns out that not all units are the same, and even though, as you mentioned, this relates to issues with my specific model, when I browse the forum, I see that each of these problems has been flagged earlier – either collectively, as in my case, or individually.

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                                      jjpaz Bronze Member @matt-r
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                                      @matt-r said in Suunto Race S general discussion:

                                      First, what’s already been mentioned on the forum – the sleep tracking doesn’t work. At all! Neither naps nor night sleep – nothing. What does this mean? There’s no way to collect data for HRV…

                                      I suppose you have configured the 24/7 tracking and HRV measurement (unoder ‘Sleep’ menu), right?

                                      If that’s correct you can verify your DND hours and your rest hertrate for improved measurement). Also, you can perform a soft-reset and test.

                                      Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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                                        matt-r @Todd Danielczyk
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                                        @Todd-Danielczyk I first want to state I can understand your frustration; you buy a product to work.

                                        One thing I noted with my Vertical is I was getting inconsistent HRV/Sleep until I set my resting heart rate up higher in the watch. I will need to search for the post I made in this regard but that may be something to try. Once it was raised I was getting much better data and may help you in this case.

                                        Once I find my post I will update this to give you an idea of how much from baseline I moved the resting HR.

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                                          matt-r @jjpaz
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                                          @jjpaz Of course, I had it set up. I spent almost 2 hours fiddling with the correct settings, etc. At this point, I’m positively obsessed – I even read the manual when I don’t know something 😉
                                          I did a soft reset, then a hard reset – and still the same issue 😕

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                                            dreamer_ @matt-r
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                                            Hi @matt-r . About the sleep issues I seriously think there’s something with your unit. My SV was not tracking the sleep well, but my SR was perfect even with the naps, as far as I remember. And the SR is using the same algorythms as the SRs.

                                            Only one thing. I have had a similar feeling with my SV and SR I had and for different bugs as yours. In fact I don’t own them now for several fixes that are still pending. But while I understand your frustration, just to note that the CN reference in the way you are using it, doesn’t sound very well for several reasons.

                                            Don’t take me bad, it’s not my idea to correct a man that is frustrated and that I even completely understand. But a guy of these forums made me think that we are living in a global world and with users that are also from China, and that some are also perhaps here reading your comments and thinking about them.

                                            And there’s also a true reality here we are not used to think. Most of the electronic devices (almost all) are manufactured in China (even Garmin or Apple watches are made in China). And chinese companies (like the now owner of Suunto) do also have engineers working worldwide, like in the Suunto case.

                                            A similar example is Coros (with headquarters at the USA and the EU), Huawei (with a fantastic health lab in Finland) or even Amazfit (with many people working for Zepp in the whole world. I.e, Their PAI thing is created by a norwegian University, for example).

                                            I’m not defending Suunto for the issues but It’s just It does not have sense at all to think that if a watch is manufactured in China is going to be worse. That is not realistic in 2024 and that does not correspond to (any) brand of the world.

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