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      borgelkranz Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
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      @Sportsfreund sorry I don’t get it even though I am one of the old people…

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        borgelkranz Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
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        @Sportsfreund I do not see a graph on the watch but a bar that is color coded. Data is displayed after 10 minutes of warmup as explained in the description of the Zonesense app.

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          Sportsfreund Bronze Member @borgelkranz
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          @borgelkranz yes. This is what I mean. I bar. A graph. A colored line. So what.

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            far-blue Bronze Member
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            Regarding the delay on ZS reacting, I’ve been testing out on threshold intervals and, although this is likely quite personal, for me it is about 10s behind the related change in HR. Of course there’s often a 10s to 20s delay in my HR reacting to a sudden increase or decrease in pace so overall ZS has a total lag for me of around 30s. Personally I think that’s pretty decent given I’m used to the 20s or so lag on my HR 🙂

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              herlas Silver Members
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              One observation I’ve seen is, if we warm-up way slower than what a regular warm-up pace is for us, this will make ZS have a lower baseline and hence thresholds (if measured) will be lower as well.

              Advise is, do aerobic warm-ups but do not do them at a slower pace than your regular warm-up.

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                borgelkranz Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
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                @Sportsfreund I actively monitored that only during a hike and during one of my bike commutes to work. I shot a foto of the watch after the hike:

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                In SuuntoApp this looked like this:
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                Not a perfect match I’d say…

                Caveat: this was the first hike I did using a HF belt and ZoneSones. So perhaps this is not yet calibrated?

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                  cosme.costa @borgelkranz
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                  @borgelkranz As I said before and info extracted from the Spanish Forum, the inconsistency between watch and app should be solved with next android app version, is seems that it is already fixed in iOS.

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                    Ghost @cosme.costa
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                    @cosme-costa I can confirm being on iOS and not having the issue.

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                      Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Ghost
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                      @Mountain i also dont have problems with iOS app. Only the delay in the watch.

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                        thanasis Bronze Member @Ghost
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                        @Mountain i definitnely have discrepancies between the app and the watch. strong ones i would say. my last run shows in the app like 40% in Red while the watch showed like 1-2% (in iOS)

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                          Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Ghost
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                          @Mountain
                          Does it make sense to set these measured values ​​in my 5 zone model in the watch?

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                            Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
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                            @Sportsfreund It’s a measurement from the last workout this morning. A 10km run in my slow feel good zone. (Green zone from SUUNTO Zone Sense)

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                              Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
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                              @Sportsfreund Next inconsistency I found is, when I ran in ZoneSense Green Zone, which means AEROBIC, the Suunto App classifies the activitie as an AEROBIC/ANAEROBIC activity, because the Heartrate often was in Heartratezone 3.
                              This is not the trueness when I run while using ZoneSense instead of the HR Modus.

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                                cosme.costa @Sportsfreund
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                                @Sportsfreund This is true, automatic tagging is based in HR and not in ZS. I think and hope, that eventually, they will let you chose between which base you want to use, HR or ZS.

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                                  Ghost @Sportsfreund
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                                  @Sportsfreund Hashtags are HR zones based not ZoneSense.

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                                    Ghost @Sportsfreund
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                                    @Sportsfreund to me yes.

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                                      ChrisA Platinum Member @Sportsfreund
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                                      @Sportsfreund said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                      @Sportsfreund and I can’t imagine the waves while the heartrate is constantly rising.

                                      If I remember correctly in the Suunto video, where Zonesense is explained, they actually say, that the ups and downs of the Zonesense graph are not really significant , but the Zone alone (so if it’s in the green it’s in the green)

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                                        vuckowolf
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                                        Hi,

                                        does anyone know why the app is not showing a measured aerobic and anaerobic HR every time? Sometimes they show one, sometimes none, sometimes both.

                                        Thanks, Matthias

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                                          cosme.costa @vuckowolf
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                                          @vuckowolf said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                          Hi,

                                          does anyone know why the app is not showing a measured aerobic and anaerobic HR every time? Sometimes they show one, sometimes none, sometimes both.

                                          Thanks, Matthias

                                          Because maybe it doesn’t have enough data or maybe because they do not need to change. I mean, to detect the change between anaerobic and VO2max you need to be enough time in the red zone, the same for the aerobic one. But not always changes.

                                          Besides, I have read that the thresholds are calculated during the first 45 minutes (I do not know if it includes the 10 minutes warm up or not) to avoid that the fatigue affecting to the calculations.

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                                            AntoniusGaius @thanasis
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                                            @thanasis said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                            @Brad_Olwin can you help me with why this happens ?

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                                            While the app seems to be running it also shows waiting for data

                                            Also the there is a big difference in the data in the watch ( eg I had some 5-6min the red zone ) while in the app the duration is 0

                                            Same here. On the watch it seems to work as expected but in app total different and nonsense. Maybe I dont get it right but, if this should be real time effort monitoring then what is post workout analysis for? At least it must be in line. For me real time is real time. One of this is wrong.
                                            I did relatively high altitude hike with nice elevation gain, on the watch there were all three zones divided in thirds - which perfectly sits with my feelings. In the app red zone 0 min. In green zone 3:50 hour yellow 19 min. Hell no 🙂
                                            On the same day run in the city with some steep uphills (I wanted push it really hard) Normal zones: zone 5 25%, zone 4 46%, zonesense red zone 1 minute 🙂 I was in red on the watch most of the time.

                                            Zone sense is interesting concept but I will use standard zones as rest of the world does. Feel little bit scamed. I see, that lot of respected guys here have it working, but for me it is always very strange especially data in the app. If something is so extremely different you can hadly trust it.
                                            I use brand new Polar H10 and in runalyze I have 0% of anomalies - so data correct.
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