Rumors and dreams

[ChrisA]

@Sportsfreund the Vertical should show you Zonesense in realtime, assuming it‘s activated in Suunto+ for your workout

[GiPFELKiND]

@ChrisA Zone Sense has never shown the relevant data in real time since its release. There is always a huge time lag in the data. It would be really nice if Suunto could get the data to be shown exactly in real time.

[wakarimasen]

@GiPFELKiND said in Rumors and dreams:

@ChrisA Zone Sense has never shown the relevant data in real time since its release. There is always a huge time lag in the data. It would be really nice if Suunto could get the data to be shown exactly in real time.

Mine provides real time data - after the initial 10 minute ‘calibration.’ Not sure I’m smart enough to understand it, but it seems to change as I run.

[ChrisA]

@GiPFELKiND as far as I understand it, that’s how it works . It takes some time to adapt to changes in your system, so if there are quick changes in your system- like short intervals- it “lags” behind (or does not even show them because they’re not even strenuous enough to raise your overall state), because those quick changes take some time to “show up” in the way Zonesense calculates them. For me Zonesense gives me the a very good overall estimation of my workout, while the feelings I get from my body and my heartbeat give me short term information (like running up a hill for a minute or two) about going faster or slow down for the moment.

[Brad_Olwin]

@GiPFELKiND said in Rumors and dreams:

@ChrisA Zone Sense has never shown the relevant data in real time since its release. There is always a huge time lag in the data. It would be really nice if Suunto could get the data to be shown exactly in real time.

That is not how the underlying data work. Maybe watch the videos, I do not think the HRV data will ever be instantaneous, The ZS information is very clear that the measurements will not work for short or less than 3 min intervals. I disagree with your blanket statement as ZS works amazingly well for what I do.

[BastMaSVSRS9PP]

Better weather app please!!! More watch face customization !!!

[JamesB]

Dreams:
Vertical XL
50mm + (for more solar and display) I like big watches.
Same industrial design which is class leading.
Routable points on watch.

[Highlands]

@JamesB Shut up and take my money

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

I’d go with something similar to 9PP in shape and size (and MIP, of course), but with solar and some updated features related to heart rhythm abnormalities, either via OHR (at night) or via HR belt when it’s in use. Oh, and updated haptics

Small but a nut.

[Sportsfreund]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel than take the vertical.

[taziden]

@Sportsfreund said in Rumors and dreams:

@Łukasz-Szmigiel than take the vertical.

I have the same wish as @Łukasz-Szmigiel but Vertical is too big for my small wrist.

[fv4500]

Having unoffically seen this one we’re discussing, do you think this is a definitive good-bye to MIP displays? Three AMOLED displays in the last three latest releases possibly mean that the Vertical is the last uMIPcorn we’ll see from the “old” Suunto?

[halajos]

@fv4500 we never know. None of those watches with AMOLED display do specifically target hard core outdoor adventurers/explorers, like the Vertical does.

[Dan Cantir]

@taziden Have you tried it on in a store?

I have a ~17cm wrist, and I hesitated to buy the Suunto Vertical for about a year because I thought it would be too large for me. Plus, we don’t have any Suunto stores in my country, so trying it on wasn’t an option. I previously used a FR 255 and tried on a Fenix 7, but it looked pretty awkward on my small wrist. Eventually, I noticed everyone switching to AMOLED displays, so I decided to go ahead and order the Vertical. When it arrived, I was surprised at how well it fit and how comfortable it was, even though it’s a 49mm watch. For me, the problem with Garmin watches has always been the lug-to-lug distance. The FR 255 is a 45.6mm watch, but its lug-to-lug distance is actually a little longer than the Vertical’s(49mm). Now, I find the Vertical’s size quite comfortable — I can even sleep with it on — though, compared to the S9PP, it’s still less comfortable.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@Sportsfreund too large. I have a small wrist and enjoy having a watch 24/7 which doesn’t get in my way. I like 9PP for it being pretty transparent (if you don’t mind the vibrations).

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@fv4500 I think that MIP will be reserved for strictly outdoor oriented watches that will be released less often than new AMOLED devices. Unless someone comes with a hybrid technology that will utilise AMOLED for swiping the carousel and MIP or something similar for activities.

[Sportsfreund]

@Dan-Cantir So I measured my wrist straight away It measures 19.5 cm.

[taziden]

@Dan-Cantir said in Rumors and dreams:
Now, I find the Vertical’s size quite comfortable — I can even sleep with it on — though, >compared to the S9PP, it’s still less comfortable.

Well, I already have a S9PP, so I’d rather have something as comfortable

[sky-runner]

Speaking about dreams, I just want a bit more advanced Race or Vertical with AMOLED display (because of old eyes), 50 hours battery life with dual-band GNSS, maps, and navigation, and a more advanced OHR sensor. I would prefer a rotating crown similar to the one in Race and Race S. Titanium body and sapphire crystal would be a plus. Also, having a built-in flashlight would be a plus. Also, if I could dream, I would prefer a 5 button setup (4 buttons + crown) more similar to what we had on Suunto Ambit. That would allow additional UI shortcuts and better UX.

Feature vice, I want a bit more advanced elevation profile, closer to what Garmin Climb Pro is, but with ability to scroll. Also I want Garmin’s Up Ahead feature, and Strava Live segments implementation that matches Garmin’s implementation (100 segments and support for downhill running segments). That plus all current Suunto features. If Suunto releases something like that, I’ll immediately buy it.

[Swaddy61]

@sky-runner Sounds like you actually want / need a Garmin!