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S9 (2.4.14) 'Calibrate FusedTrack' interface problem. Suunto Case #01853829

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  • D Offline
    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @kolyany4
    last edited by 7 Nov 2018, 08:34

    @kolyany4 do you have autopause?

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      kolyany4 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
      last edited by 7 Nov 2018, 08:36

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
      yes, this option is ‘on’

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @kolyany4
        last edited by 7 Nov 2018, 08:37

        @kolyany4 might that be the culprit ?

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          kolyany4 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by kolyany4 11 Jul 2018, 08:39 7 Nov 2018, 08:39

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9 (2.4.14) 'Calibrate FusedTrack' interface problem. Suunto Case #01853829:

          @kolyany4 might that be the culprit ?

          I can turn it off, but I suspect that autopause activation (during exercise) is a consequence of a fact, that watch stops tracking (of movement)…

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            Mff73 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 7 Nov 2018, 08:39

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9 (2.4.14) 'Calibrate FusedTrack' interface problem. Suunto Case #01853829:

            @kolyany4 might that be the culprit ?

            SherlockHolmes is in you @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos 🕵

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            • B Offline
              Brad_Olwin Moderator
              last edited by Brad_Olwin 11 Jul 2018, 20:15 7 Nov 2018, 20:15

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @kolyany4 I ran today with my S9. Wanted to start on Endurance mode but forget, started on Performance and 10 min after my start switched to Endurance. I was asked to calibrate when switching (normal behavior). 40 min into the run I was asked to calibrate again…should not have happened. Cool outside today about 0°C. I did not cover the watch. No autopause no autolap.

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                kolyany4 Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                last edited by 8 Nov 2018, 02:22

                @Brad_Olwin
                is there ‘Altitude search failed’ record in watch logs, that happened during your exercise?

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                  last edited by 8 Nov 2018, 08:30

                  The altitude search failed is not related

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                    kolyany4 Bronze Member
                    last edited by kolyany4 11 Aug 2018, 09:14 8 Nov 2018, 09:02

                    Today had another run with messed track.
                    This time autolap and autopause were off.
                    Watch temperature after finish was 23 degrees of Celsius.

                    Actual track:
                    0_1541666319598_Screenshot_20181108-113632.png

                    S9 track:
                    0_1541666348069_Screenshot_20181108-113613.png
                    NB. I had to reset watch to finish Exercise.
                    According to SA pure running time was 00:23:16

                    Now it’s really interesting to see some altitude data, though I don’t know why there’s such strange non-linear time scale:
                    NB. I didn’t do any drop-off/climbing at 23 minutes mark…
                    0_1541666832986_Screenshot_20181108-113459.png

                    Here’s part of watch logs (from Exercise start till watch reset):
                    #20605 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT LOGGER : Exercise started
                    #20606 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR WBMAIN : *0: app 1982 Event 25 25 805b0315
                    #20607 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR WBMAIN : 1: mea 0 Event 07 07 80255803
                    #20608 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR WBMAIN : 2: ui 47 Wait 00 00 00000000
                    #20609 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : TRC GPS : Full GNSS data subscribed
                    #20610 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: ~Mode T 4244 + 4281 A 0 + 1210
                    #20611 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Change mode 2 -> 3
                    #20612 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeUnsub:2198
                    #20613 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeSub:4400
                    #20614 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Input source 1
                    #20615 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT DRT : 235290 tpmrun:13829 tpmwait:6384 tpmstop:214744
                    #20616 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT DRT : 235290 cbletx:262 cblerx:296 cgnssr:69600
                    #20617 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT ANALYTICS : Battery-> 3 soc:78
                    #20618 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT ANALYTICS : #FusHr src:2 time:0
                    #20619 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR ANALYTICS : colflags2
                    #20620 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT ANALYTICS : #Act id:3
                    #20621 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR ANALYTICS : colflags2
                    #20622 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT ANALYTICS : #GPS mode:BEST soc:-1
                    #20623 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR ANALYTICS : colflags2
                    #20624 08.11.2018 10:04:08 : TRC GPS : Broken RMC message
                    #20625 08.11.2018 10:16:35 : EVT ALTIFUSION : Altitude search failed
                    #20626 08.11.2018 10:16:35 : EVT ALTIFUSION : Init AltiBaro
                    #20627 08.11.2018 10:16:35 : TRC GPS : Full GNSS data subscribed
                    #20628 08.11.2018 10:16:35 : TRC GPS : GnssServiceLevel::OK or GOOD
                    #20629 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Done:GST
                    #20630 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : GSTP repeated 7 times
                    #20631 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Send: GSOP 2 120000 0
                    #20632 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Done:GSO
                    #20633 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Send: GSP
                    #20634 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Done:GSP
                    #20635 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Gnss Filter mode: Default
                    #20636 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : EVT DRT : 751558 tpmrun:56624 tpmwait:27320 tpmstop:665327
                    #20637 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : EVT DRT : 751558 cbletx:818 cblerx:810 cgnssr:351978
                    #20638 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : EVT ANALYTICS : #Act id:3
                    #20639 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : ERR ANALYTICS : colflags2
                    #20640 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : EVT ANALYTICS : #GPS mode:OK soc:-1
                    #20641 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : EVT ANALYTICS : Battery-> 7 soc:77
                    #20642 08.11.2018 10:16:39 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # speed source 3
                    #20643 08.11.2018 10:17:15 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # speed source 2
                    #20644 08.11.2018 10:18:47 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-s-tdy not allowed
                    #20645 08.11.2018 10:26:16 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-e-tdy not allowed
                    #20646 08.11.2018 10:33:48 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-s-tdy not allowed
                    #20647 08.11.2018 10:35:40 : EVT EXT_FLASH : ExtFID 0x20,0xba,0x19
                    #20648 08.11.2018 10:35:40 : TRC APPLICATION : Start 2.4.14 in mode 5 (asked 5h)

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                      kolyany4 Bronze Member
                      last edited by kolyany4 20 Nov 2018, 07:43

                      Updated S9 firmware to 2.5.18.
                      Glonass - on. Autopause - off, Autolap - off.
                      Battery Mode: Custom (GPS - OK, Low Color - On, Display Timeout - On, Touch Screen - disabled)

                      Though watch was not in hanged state at an end of a run (i.e., i was able to finish workout without watch reset),
                      track is still corrupted (only 1.65 km instead of 5 km):

                      0_1542699178873_Screenshot_20181120-102213.png

                      While actual track was:
                      0_1542699240318_Screenshot_20181120-102157.png

                      Below is part of watch logs:
                      #29417 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT LOGGER : Exercise started
                      #29418 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT BLE : HR RR on (2151201349)
                      #29419 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : ERR WBMAIN : *0: app 1296 Event 37 805b0315
                      #29420 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : ERR WBMAIN : 1: mea 1 Event 7 80141106
                      #29421 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : ERR WBMAIN : 2: ui 271 Wait 0 00000000
                      #29422 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : TRC GPS : Full GNSS data subscribed
                      #29423 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: ~Mode T 0 + 7893 A 0 + 1300
                      #29424 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Change mode 2 -> 3
                      #29425 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeUnsub:2198
                      #29426 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeSub:4400
                      #29427 20.11.2018 09:04:28 : ERR WBMAIN : *0: app 2554 Event 4 805b3365
                      #29428 20.11.2018 09:04:28 : ERR WBMAIN : 1: mea 7 Wait 0 00000000
                      #29429 20.11.2018 09:04:28 : ERR WBMAIN : 2: ui 382 Proc 0 00000000
                      #29430 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT DRT : 259999 tpmrun:14859 tpmwait:8178 tpmstop:236582
                      #29431 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT DRT : 259999 cbletx:441 cblerx:1028 cgnssr:49566
                      #29432 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT ANALYTICS : Battery-> 3 soc:93
                      #29433 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT ANALYTICS : #FusHr src:0 time:0
                      #29434 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT ANALYTICS : #Act id:3
                      #29435 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT ANALYTICS : #GPS mode:OK soc:-1
                      #29436 20.11.2018 09:04:30 : TRC GPS : Broken GSV message
                      #29437 20.11.2018 09:04:36 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Input source 0 timeout
                      #29438 20.11.2018 09:04:36 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Input source 2
                      #29439 20.11.2018 09:04:38 : EVT ANALYTICS : #FusHr src:2 time:12558
                      #29440 20.11.2018 09:04:38 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Input source 1
                      #29441 20.11.2018 09:05:02 : TRC GPS : Max input buffer size is 498 of 1001
                      #29442 20.11.2018 09:05:18 : TRC GPS : Max input buffer size is 500 of 1001
                      #29443 20.11.2018 09:06:05 : TRC GPS : Max input buffer size is 503 of 1001
                      #29444 20.11.2018 09:06:06 : TRC GPS : Max input buffer size is 505 of 1001
                      #29445 20.11.2018 09:06:25 : TRC GPS : preBurner time 120s done
                      #29446 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Done:GST
                      #29447 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : GSTP repeated 6 times
                      #29448 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Send: GSOP 2 120000 0
                      #29449 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Done:GSO
                      #29450 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Send: GSP
                      #29451 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Done:GSP
                      #29452 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Gnss Filter mode: Default
                      #29453 20.11.2018 09:06:28 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # speed source 3
                      #29454 20.11.2018 09:06:38 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # speed source 2
                      #29455 20.11.2018 09:21:33 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-s-tdy not allowed
                      #29456 20.11.2018 09:24:29 : TRC FUEL_GAUGE : Battery: 4206 mV (raw: 4206) soc: 91 %, T: 20.3 C
                      #29457 20.11.2018 09:26:56 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-e-tdy not allowed
                      #29458 20.11.2018 09:36:34 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-s-tdy not allowed
                      #29459 20.11.2018 09:37:41 : EVT LOGGER : Exercise paused
                      #29460 20.11.2018 09:37:41 : EVT <Unknown> : Update fusedtrack mode 0
                      #29461 20.11.2018 09:37:41 : TRC GPS : Unsubscribed
                      #29462 20.11.2018 09:37:41 : EVT <Unknown> : stopFusedLocation() called and send 1 points to the logg
                      #29463 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT PLANNEDMOVES : End:FALSE
                      #29464 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : TRC SLEEP : sleep: tracking auto 1
                      #29465 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: ~Mode T 7893 + 6112 A 1300 + 5710
                      #29466 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Change mode 3 -> 2
                      #29467 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeUnsub:4601
                      #29468 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeSub:1000
                      #29469 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # stop speed fusion
                      #29470 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT LOGGER : Exercise stopped
                      #29471 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # GPS changed from: 60, to: 0
                      #29472 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : TRC GPS : Unsubscribed
                      #29473 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT LOGGER : HrIbiLogger stopping, off (0 fetched)
                      #29474 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT LOGGER : HrIbiLogger all data fetched 0 ms
                      #29475 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:Activity WAOae:3
                      #29476 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:TotalAcc WAOae:41200,227236,1427663
                      #29477 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:AccCount WAOae:68,303,1601
                      #29478 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:Distance WAOae:45,61,862
                      #29479 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:Duration WAOae:67,303,1600
                      #29480 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:Coeff WAOae:0,40,458,669,770,7720,7820
                      #29481 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT <Unknown> : resetCompassAndHeading() called
                      #29482 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT FILESYSTEM : maxfh: 4 9e83 settings/modified
                      #29483 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : TRC GPS : Unsubscribed
                      #29484 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : TRC GPS : GnssServiceLevel::PASSIVE
                      #29485 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : TRC GPS : Done:WUP

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                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                        last edited by 20 Nov 2018, 08:16

                        I see your issues. Let me communicate this

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                        • surfboomerangS Offline
                          surfboomerang
                          last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 16:14

                          Maybe some extra information:

                          When I use the compass from the navigation menu (so not in an activity), I often see the compass is way off. Like 90 degrees or more.
                          When I turn around I also noticed that the North arrow barely moves or moves in a very jerky way. After a few seconds, the watch prompts me to calibrate the compass and once I did this, all is good again.

                          I noticed this behaviour quite often.
                          I’m on the latest firmware 2.5.18

                          Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
                          OnePlus Nord 4

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                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
                            last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 17:05

                            @surfboomerang if you calibrate it (even if not asked)

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                              surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 17:29

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos What exactly do you mean?

                              After calibration the compass works ok again for a while. This is when the watch prompts me to calibrate as well as a calibration without the watch asking.

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                              OnePlus Nord 4

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                              • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
                                last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 17:33

                                @surfboomerang Ok give me some time. @kolyany4 btw goes for HW replacement.

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                                  surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 17:40

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Ok, I’m curious if this fixes the issue for @kolyany4.

                                  In my case I have never had to calibrate my compass during an activity, nor had messed up tracks. But I almost always use the GPS best setting. So maybe I was lucky all the time.

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                                  OnePlus Nord 4

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                                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
                                    last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 17:44

                                    @surfboomerang lets see how it goes …

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                                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                      last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 17:44

                                      I am also curious

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                                      • kolyany4K Offline
                                        kolyany4 Bronze Member @surfboomerang
                                        last edited by kolyany4 29 Nov 2018, 03:18

                                        @surfboomerang
                                        I have requested to HW replacement, and last notification I’ve received was a week ago about my request being analyzed by Suunto Headquarters. Though, I’m aware that @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos is pushing my request a lot from his side.

                                        But I almost always use the GPS best setting

                                        As I understand, compass is not used in “GPS best” mode in order to fill gaps between “GPS-located”-points. Thus, in “GPS best” mode such error should not occur.

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                                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @kolyany4
                                          last edited by 29 Nov 2018, 10:51

                                          @kolyany4 I am on your case. It takes a few due to Russia service etc

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