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    S9 (2.4.14) 'Calibrate FusedTrack' interface problem. Suunto Case #01853829

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    • kolyany4K Offline
      kolyany4 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
      last edited by kolyany4

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9 (2.4.14) 'Calibrate FusedTrack' interface problem. Suunto Case #01853829:

      @kolyany4 might that be the culprit ?

      I can turn it off, but I suspect that autopause activation (during exercise) is a consequence of a fact, that watch stops tracking (of movement)…

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      • Mff73M Offline
        Mff73 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9 (2.4.14) 'Calibrate FusedTrack' interface problem. Suunto Case #01853829:

        @kolyany4 might that be the culprit ?

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        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
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          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @kolyany4 I ran today with my S9. Wanted to start on Endurance mode but forget, started on Performance and 10 min after my start switched to Endurance. I was asked to calibrate when switching (normal behavior). 40 min into the run I was asked to calibrate again…should not have happened. Cool outside today about 0°C. I did not cover the watch. No autopause no autolap.

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          • kolyany4K Offline
            kolyany4 Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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            @Brad_Olwin
            is there ‘Altitude search failed’ record in watch logs, that happened during your exercise?

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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              The altitude search failed is not related

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              • kolyany4K Offline
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                last edited by kolyany4

                Today had another run with messed track.
                This time autolap and autopause were off.
                Watch temperature after finish was 23 degrees of Celsius.

                Actual track:
                0_1541666319598_Screenshot_20181108-113632.png

                S9 track:
                0_1541666348069_Screenshot_20181108-113613.png
                NB. I had to reset watch to finish Exercise.
                According to SA pure running time was 00:23:16

                Now it’s really interesting to see some altitude data, though I don’t know why there’s such strange non-linear time scale:
                NB. I didn’t do any drop-off/climbing at 23 minutes mark…
                0_1541666832986_Screenshot_20181108-113459.png

                Here’s part of watch logs (from Exercise start till watch reset):
                #20605 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT LOGGER : Exercise started
                #20606 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR WBMAIN : *0: app 1982 Event 25 25 805b0315
                #20607 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR WBMAIN : 1: mea 0 Event 07 07 80255803
                #20608 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR WBMAIN : 2: ui 47 Wait 00 00 00000000
                #20609 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : TRC GPS : Full GNSS data subscribed
                #20610 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: ~Mode T 4244 + 4281 A 0 + 1210
                #20611 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Change mode 2 -> 3
                #20612 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeUnsub:2198
                #20613 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeSub:4400
                #20614 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Input source 1
                #20615 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT DRT : 235290 tpmrun:13829 tpmwait:6384 tpmstop:214744
                #20616 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT DRT : 235290 cbletx:262 cblerx:296 cgnssr:69600
                #20617 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT ANALYTICS : Battery-> 3 soc:78
                #20618 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT ANALYTICS : #FusHr src:2 time:0
                #20619 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR ANALYTICS : colflags2
                #20620 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT ANALYTICS : #Act id:3
                #20621 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR ANALYTICS : colflags2
                #20622 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : EVT ANALYTICS : #GPS mode:BEST soc:-1
                #20623 08.11.2018 10:04:06 : ERR ANALYTICS : colflags2
                #20624 08.11.2018 10:04:08 : TRC GPS : Broken RMC message
                #20625 08.11.2018 10:16:35 : EVT ALTIFUSION : Altitude search failed
                #20626 08.11.2018 10:16:35 : EVT ALTIFUSION : Init AltiBaro
                #20627 08.11.2018 10:16:35 : TRC GPS : Full GNSS data subscribed
                #20628 08.11.2018 10:16:35 : TRC GPS : GnssServiceLevel::OK or GOOD
                #20629 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Done:GST
                #20630 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : GSTP repeated 7 times
                #20631 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Send: GSOP 2 120000 0
                #20632 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Done:GSO
                #20633 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Send: GSP
                #20634 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Done:GSP
                #20635 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : TRC GPS : Gnss Filter mode: Default
                #20636 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : EVT DRT : 751558 tpmrun:56624 tpmwait:27320 tpmstop:665327
                #20637 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : EVT DRT : 751558 cbletx:818 cblerx:810 cgnssr:351978
                #20638 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : EVT ANALYTICS : #Act id:3
                #20639 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : ERR ANALYTICS : colflags2
                #20640 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : EVT ANALYTICS : #GPS mode:OK soc:-1
                #20641 08.11.2018 10:16:37 : EVT ANALYTICS : Battery-> 7 soc:77
                #20642 08.11.2018 10:16:39 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # speed source 3
                #20643 08.11.2018 10:17:15 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # speed source 2
                #20644 08.11.2018 10:18:47 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-s-tdy not allowed
                #20645 08.11.2018 10:26:16 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-e-tdy not allowed
                #20646 08.11.2018 10:33:48 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-s-tdy not allowed
                #20647 08.11.2018 10:35:40 : EVT EXT_FLASH : ExtFID 0x20,0xba,0x19
                #20648 08.11.2018 10:35:40 : TRC APPLICATION : Start 2.4.14 in mode 5 (asked 5h)

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                • kolyany4K Offline
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                  last edited by kolyany4

                  Updated S9 firmware to 2.5.18.
                  Glonass - on. Autopause - off, Autolap - off.
                  Battery Mode: Custom (GPS - OK, Low Color - On, Display Timeout - On, Touch Screen - disabled)

                  Though watch was not in hanged state at an end of a run (i.e., i was able to finish workout without watch reset),
                  track is still corrupted (only 1.65 km instead of 5 km):

                  0_1542699178873_Screenshot_20181120-102213.png

                  While actual track was:
                  0_1542699240318_Screenshot_20181120-102157.png

                  Below is part of watch logs:
                  #29417 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT LOGGER : Exercise started
                  #29418 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT BLE : HR RR on (2151201349)
                  #29419 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : ERR WBMAIN : *0: app 1296 Event 37 805b0315
                  #29420 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : ERR WBMAIN : 1: mea 1 Event 7 80141106
                  #29421 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : ERR WBMAIN : 2: ui 271 Wait 0 00000000
                  #29422 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : TRC GPS : Full GNSS data subscribed
                  #29423 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: ~Mode T 0 + 7893 A 0 + 1300
                  #29424 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Change mode 2 -> 3
                  #29425 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeUnsub:2198
                  #29426 20.11.2018 09:04:26 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeSub:4400
                  #29427 20.11.2018 09:04:28 : ERR WBMAIN : *0: app 2554 Event 4 805b3365
                  #29428 20.11.2018 09:04:28 : ERR WBMAIN : 1: mea 7 Wait 0 00000000
                  #29429 20.11.2018 09:04:28 : ERR WBMAIN : 2: ui 382 Proc 0 00000000
                  #29430 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT DRT : 259999 tpmrun:14859 tpmwait:8178 tpmstop:236582
                  #29431 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT DRT : 259999 cbletx:441 cblerx:1028 cgnssr:49566
                  #29432 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT ANALYTICS : Battery-> 3 soc:93
                  #29433 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT ANALYTICS : #FusHr src:0 time:0
                  #29434 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT ANALYTICS : #Act id:3
                  #29435 20.11.2018 09:04:29 : EVT ANALYTICS : #GPS mode:OK soc:-1
                  #29436 20.11.2018 09:04:30 : TRC GPS : Broken GSV message
                  #29437 20.11.2018 09:04:36 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Input source 0 timeout
                  #29438 20.11.2018 09:04:36 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Input source 2
                  #29439 20.11.2018 09:04:38 : EVT ANALYTICS : #FusHr src:2 time:12558
                  #29440 20.11.2018 09:04:38 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Input source 1
                  #29441 20.11.2018 09:05:02 : TRC GPS : Max input buffer size is 498 of 1001
                  #29442 20.11.2018 09:05:18 : TRC GPS : Max input buffer size is 500 of 1001
                  #29443 20.11.2018 09:06:05 : TRC GPS : Max input buffer size is 503 of 1001
                  #29444 20.11.2018 09:06:06 : TRC GPS : Max input buffer size is 505 of 1001
                  #29445 20.11.2018 09:06:25 : TRC GPS : preBurner time 120s done
                  #29446 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Done:GST
                  #29447 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : GSTP repeated 6 times
                  #29448 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Send: GSOP 2 120000 0
                  #29449 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Done:GSO
                  #29450 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Send: GSP
                  #29451 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Done:GSP
                  #29452 20.11.2018 09:06:27 : TRC GPS : Gnss Filter mode: Default
                  #29453 20.11.2018 09:06:28 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # speed source 3
                  #29454 20.11.2018 09:06:38 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # speed source 2
                  #29455 20.11.2018 09:21:33 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-s-tdy not allowed
                  #29456 20.11.2018 09:24:29 : TRC FUEL_GAUGE : Battery: 4206 mV (raw: 4206) soc: 91 %, T: 20.3 C
                  #29457 20.11.2018 09:26:56 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-e-tdy not allowed
                  #29458 20.11.2018 09:36:34 : TRC APPLICATION : Notification n-act-s-tdy not allowed
                  #29459 20.11.2018 09:37:41 : EVT LOGGER : Exercise paused
                  #29460 20.11.2018 09:37:41 : EVT <Unknown> : Update fusedtrack mode 0
                  #29461 20.11.2018 09:37:41 : TRC GPS : Unsubscribed
                  #29462 20.11.2018 09:37:41 : EVT <Unknown> : stopFusedLocation() called and send 1 points to the logg
                  #29463 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT PLANNEDMOVES : End:FALSE
                  #29464 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : TRC SLEEP : sleep: tracking auto 1
                  #29465 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: ~Mode T 7893 + 6112 A 1300 + 5710
                  #29466 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT TRAININGLAB : TLab: Change mode 3 -> 2
                  #29467 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeUnsub:4601
                  #29468 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT TRAININGLAB : ModeSub:1000
                  #29469 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # stop speed fusion
                  #29470 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT LOGGER : Exercise stopped
                  #29471 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT SPEEDFUSION : INFO # GPS changed from: 60, to: 0
                  #29472 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : TRC GPS : Unsubscribed
                  #29473 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT LOGGER : HrIbiLogger stopping, off (0 fetched)
                  #29474 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT LOGGER : HrIbiLogger all data fetched 0 ms
                  #29475 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:Activity WAOae:3
                  #29476 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:TotalAcc WAOae:41200,227236,1427663
                  #29477 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:AccCount WAOae:68,303,1601
                  #29478 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:Distance WAOae:45,61,862
                  #29479 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:Duration WAOae:67,303,1600
                  #29480 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT ANALYTICS : WAOae:Coeff WAOae:0,40,458,669,770,7720,7820
                  #29481 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT <Unknown> : resetCompassAndHeading() called
                  #29482 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : EVT FILESYSTEM : maxfh: 4 9e83 settings/modified
                  #29483 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : TRC GPS : Unsubscribed
                  #29484 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : TRC GPS : GnssServiceLevel::PASSIVE
                  #29485 20.11.2018 09:37:43 : TRC GPS : Done:WUP

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                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                    last edited by

                    I see your issues. Let me communicate this

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                    • surfboomerangS Offline
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                      Maybe some extra information:

                      When I use the compass from the navigation menu (so not in an activity), I often see the compass is way off. Like 90 degrees or more.
                      When I turn around I also noticed that the North arrow barely moves or moves in a very jerky way. After a few seconds, the watch prompts me to calibrate the compass and once I did this, all is good again.

                      I noticed this behaviour quite often.
                      I’m on the latest firmware 2.5.18

                      Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
                      OnePlus Nord 4

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                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
                        last edited by

                        @surfboomerang if you calibrate it (even if not asked)

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                          surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos What exactly do you mean?

                          After calibration the compass works ok again for a while. This is when the watch prompts me to calibrate as well as a calibration without the watch asking.

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                          OnePlus Nord 4

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
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                            @surfboomerang Ok give me some time. @kolyany4 btw goes for HW replacement.

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                              surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Ok, I’m curious if this fixes the issue for @kolyany4.

                              In my case I have never had to calibrate my compass during an activity, nor had messed up tracks. But I almost always use the GPS best setting. So maybe I was lucky all the time.

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                              OnePlus Nord 4

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                                @surfboomerang lets see how it goes …

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                                  I am also curious

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                                    @surfboomerang
                                    I have requested to HW replacement, and last notification I’ve received was a week ago about my request being analyzed by Suunto Headquarters. Though, I’m aware that @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos is pushing my request a lot from his side.

                                    But I almost always use the GPS best setting

                                    As I understand, compass is not used in “GPS best” mode in order to fill gaps between “GPS-located”-points. Thus, in “GPS best” mode such error should not occur.

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                                      @kolyany4 I am on your case. It takes a few due to Russia service etc

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                                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                                        Hi ONLY FOR THE COMPASS calibration perhaps we have found a bug.

                                        I want to keep this seperate from @kolyany4 that was loosing GPS.

                                        Also this relates to best mode as I had been asked for compass calibration a few times.

                                        I ll keep you updated

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                                          surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Good to hear you found something.

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                                            last edited by kolyany4

                                            Yesterday I got a replacement watch from local service, thanks to Dimitrios.

                                            And I just had a half of my usual run, which, unfortunately, demonstrate presence of the problem (with replaced watch as well):
                                            1.76 km instead of 2.79 km with persistent request to Calibrate FusedTrack during run.

                                            Here’s what watch has tracked:
                                            Screenshot_20181227-114800.png

                                            while actual track was:
                                            Screenshot_20181227-114654.png

                                            NB. Serial number of previous watch was 18371000xxxx, while S/N of current one is 18481000xxxx.

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