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Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo)

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  • I Offline
    Inge Nallsson @Inge Nallsson
    last edited by 13 Feb 2025, 19:25

    @Inge-Nallsson said in Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo):

    Tonight I will try a bit of butterfly, even though I’m old and afraid of injury. Perhaps 100 metres medley, to keep it safe…

    No, the watch couldn’t handle 100 metres medley. It got so confused that all four lengths were seen as freestyle and it chopped up the interval in one 25 metres part and the other 75 metres. Furthermore, the interval time never got started, showed dashes “–” until I began the next interval. Medley begins with butterfly, so there lies the confused starting point. I also ended the whole session with 2x25 metres butterfly, which were called freestyle. Granted, my butterly style is not among the best, and is further degraded by an old man’s muscle loss.

    Suunto Race S

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      Devis
      last edited by 13 Feb 2025, 19:54

      Hello,
      I have a Race S and just updated it to the latest firmware 2.39.44.
      It now seriously underestimates the swimming distance (or the pool laps) and it fails to recognize all swimming styles.

      Yesterday I swam 1000m (freestyle, backstroke and breaststroke) in a 25m pool, but the watch estimated a distance of only 800m.
      With the previous firmware, the watch was tracking the distance (or the pool laps) almost correctly, in my case it usually overestimated by about +7%.

      Yesterday it failed to recognize the backstroke (but this is less important to me).

      Thanks, kind regards.

      Devis

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        Olaf Gottschalk Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
        last edited by Olaf Gottschalk 13 Feb 2025, 21:02

        @Brad_Olwin sure, Brad! The problem is that if somebody wakes me up in the middle of the night for the second time, I tend to lose my temper easily. Would you be nice and gentle if somebody rings at your door in the middle of the night for no reason?

        You asked this in the other thread that you locked:
        No, I did not defer anything, or have any strange setting or whatsoever.
        The last two updates (December and now February) did the same thing: during my sleep and DND enabled just like every night, the screen turned up, bright and shiny and woke me up.

        It stated “There is a firmware update available. Install now?”

        I can assure you, if this is a known bug, no it’s not fixed.

        Btw: I reported this in December as well…

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          nhojb @Devis
          last edited by 13 Feb 2025, 23:05

          @Devis exactly the same for me. Distance accuracy was previously very good. Now it is underestimating my swim distance by 20% or so, making it pretty much useless 😕

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            Jussi Vaihia
            last edited by 14 Feb 2025, 06:30

            Sleep tracking broke on Race after update. On the night of the auto-update no sleep recorded, then on following nights it records me falling asleep at 04ish losing half of my sleep.

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              GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Jussi Vaihia
              last edited by GiPFELKiND 14 Feb 2025, 06:31

              @Jussi-Vaihia oh nooooooo again? Sorry to hear this bad thing. Make a downgrade to previous Firmware and NEVER update it again 😊

              If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you. #lifewithasthma #runwithasthma #nevergiveup #pushinglimits #adventurestartshere Suunto D9, 9 Baro, 9 Peak, Vertical Ti, Race , Race s Courtney, SA (Beta) Android🏃🏼🧗⛷️🚵

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                racsox
                last edited by 14 Feb 2025, 08:08

                Another one here with problems with sleep tracking with a Race.
                In my case, I installed the update on Tuesday and until tonight (Thursday to Friday) it was working correctly.

                We will have to go back to 2 previous versions, again.

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                  GiPFELKiND Silver Members @racsox
                  last edited by 14 Feb 2025, 09:50

                  @racsox time to Stay goodbeye 😅😅😅

                  If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you. #lifewithasthma #runwithasthma #nevergiveup #pushinglimits #adventurestartshere Suunto D9, 9 Baro, 9 Peak, Vertical Ti, Race , Race s Courtney, SA (Beta) Android🏃🏼🧗⛷️🚵

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                    nhojb
                    last edited by 14 Feb 2025, 17:10

                    Another data point on pool distance accuracy with the 2.39.44 update:

                    Today I swam breast-stroke for 1240m in a 20m pool. The Race S tracked this as only 680m - so very, very inaccurate. Previously it was more or less spot on.

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                      Ars Vitae Bronze Member
                      last edited by 14 Feb 2025, 22:03

                      Also, I report no significant change in terms of the measuring accuracy in swimming. Since for the past 2 years (and judging by the comments before that as well) none of the updates have tried to solve this problem I have accepted the errors (style recognition, distance confusion) and apply the corrections myself after training.
                      Reading now the reported bugs in the context of the new update, which should solve the problem of measuring distance in pool swimming, I checked the results from today’s workout and confirm that the watch (SV) still makes errors in recognizing styles, there was one mistake in counting the distance and completely fails to recognize the exercises for butterfly style and leg exercises.

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Olaf Gottschalk
                        last edited by 14 Feb 2025, 23:34

                        @Olaf-Gottschalk next time this happens send logs and PM me with time and date logs sent plus the email you use for SA. Has not happened to me in a long time. Auto -DND prevents the watch from buzzing and waking me up.

                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                          thanasis Bronze Member
                          last edited by 15 Feb 2025, 07:13

                          My observations of the firmware

                          -WiFi issue sold
                          -synching weather is better
                          -no oHR so far (didn’t have before either)
                          But

                          I have seen increased battery drainage… it’s quite a lot now with overnight losing over3% and 8% on idle days

                          Unfortunately …

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                            Kaiphi
                            last edited by 15 Feb 2025, 09:53

                            I’ve been watching the clock for several days now and I’ve noticed two points. I have the vertical and never had any problems with an update before. The battery consumption has gone up. Not as high as others reported in the old updates, but 3-10% per activity or per night.
                            The heart rate measurement takes longer to display a value when I click on the widget and is usually too high. But then it quickly goes down to the correct value. As if it has a mismeasurement and has to adapt first. It’s not bad but will probably downgrade

                            Suunto 9 Peak Pro
                            Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar

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                              thanasis Bronze Member @thanasis
                              last edited by 15 Feb 2025, 10:44

                              @thanasis said in Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo):

                              My observations of the firmware

                              -WiFi issue sold
                              -synching weather is better
                              -no oHR so far (didn’t have before either)
                              But

                              I have seen increased battery drainage… it’s quite a lot now with overnight losing over3% and 8% on idle days

                              Unfortunately …

                              Rebooted and testing . It seems as high as when the battery issues were reported … it’s actually quite bad as it stands

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                                Mff73 @thanasis
                                last edited by 15 Feb 2025, 13:19

                                @thanasis after a FW update you should wait for a complete discharge charge before any meaningful complain 😉.

                                Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                Suunto Vertical all black
                                Wife : S9PP
                                SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                  Arju Ambin Silver Members
                                  last edited by Arju Ambin 15 Feb 2025, 13:30

                                  A friendly reminder regarding battery life, check out the first question in this FAQ: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9960/more-faq?_=1734438665530

                                  So basically don’t judge the battery life directly after the update.

                                  Suunto Race

                                  T 1 Reply Last reply 15 Feb 2025, 13:36 Reply Quote 1
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                                    thanasis Bronze Member @Arju Ambin
                                    last edited by thanasis 15 Feb 2025, 13:36

                                    @Arju-Ambin said in Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo):

                                    A friendly reminder regarding battery life, check out the first question in this FAQ: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9960/more-faq?_=1734438665530

                                    So basically don’t judge the battery life directly after the update.
                                    @Mff73

                                    Well … the previous time it was suggested as such and turned out to be a firmware issue … so waiting for a battery deplete before mentioning it and going through a similar circle of events seems a bit off at least .

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                                      Mff73 @thanasis
                                      last edited by 15 Feb 2025, 13:50

                                      @thanasis
                                      You do what you want, you can mention a potential issue, and it will be considered as potential due to the fact that it is mentioned right after FW update.
                                      So basically, useless except posting.
                                      Just my feeling, there are so many buzz nowadays in this forum, maybe worth waiting little bit more for reasonable proof before.

                                      Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                      Suunto Vertical all black
                                      Wife : S9PP
                                      SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                      Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                        Ars Vitae Bronze Member @Mff73
                                        last edited by 15 Feb 2025, 14:05

                                        @Mff73 In my case, the complete discharge of the watch never mattered, it did not affect the the battery performance. The only thing that affected it was restarting the watch.

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                                          Tieutieu Platinum Member
                                          last edited by 15 Feb 2025, 14:17

                                          Don’t forget that battery life is directly related to settings.
                                          Backlight, notifcations…

                                          For me update went very well on both my SV and SRs ; no particular issues.
                                          (Battery life seems even slightly better on my SRs since update.)

                                          But, that’s with my settings :

                                          • mainbacklight off
                                          • no vibrations, button tonalities off, alarm “both”
                                          • backlight to low
                                          • raise to wake low
                                          • notifications off
                                          • 24h OHR on, sleep tracking ON, HRV tracking ON

                                          I only had wifi issue, it’s corrected. I had no OHR issues, it still works fine on both.

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                                          Vertical titanium solar
                                          Suunto Race S
                                          S9pp titanium sand
                                          Suunto Wing
                                          S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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