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    Software Update 2.43.8/.12 (2025 Q2)

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    • Stefano M64S Offline
      Stefano M64 Silver Members @GiPFELKiND
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      @GiPFELKiND said in Software Update 2.43.8/.12 (2025 Q2):

      @Stefano-M64 downgrade to 2.37.48 its since many updates the BEST Firmware and stable without Crash. With every new Update Problems like yours comes to the watch. Why upgrade when the system is running without Problems. 😁😉

      I understand your view, but don’t think avoiding upgrades it’s a good solution. Luckily my Race never crashed, just hope that this odd map zoom-out redrawing issue can be solved asap!

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      • SuperFlo75S Offline
        SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @Pavlas
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        @Pavlas I had a similar experience with open water swimming last weekend, it’s very inaccurate, worse than last year!

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        • SuperFlo75S Offline
          SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @Egika
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          @Egika I had a good experience with breast stroke swimming and only waiting for the green arrow last year, but now, it’s worse. The location/sea is the same…

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          • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
            Александр Даниленко @sky-runner
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            @sky-runner absolutely agree

            We need rest time between intervals, not the total.

            Like it is done in “swim timer” app.

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            • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
              Александр Даниленко
              last edited by

              Where I can report about problems with SuuntoPlus apps?

              I want to report and explain why “Swim drills” app doesn’t work in reality (it looks like the one who did the app doesn’t know how the watch actually work in swimming 🤨).

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              • pilleusP Offline
                pilleus @mlakis
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                @mlakis

                Me too. Every 60 seconds the power is reset to 0 and starts to count again the 10 seconds average (this is my data field).

                Introduced with the recent firmware update. 🫤

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                  Likarnik Bronze Member @pilleus
                  last edited by

                  @pilleus So only power field on watch is affected, activity in SA is ok?

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                  • Inge NallssonI Offline
                    Inge Nallsson @Александр Даниленко
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                    @Александр-Даниленко said in Software Update 2.43.8/.12 (2025 Q2):

                    Where I can report about problems with SuuntoPlus apps?

                    I’d guess the only place except writing to support@suunto.com is at this forum and its specific area https://forum.suunto.com/category/46/suuntoplus-sports-apps

                    I have not had the opportunity to try out the ‘Swim drills’ app yet, but from a quick glance at it when installing on watch it seems like we have to configure exactly how many reps of anything we would do, how many metres and in which order. It looks more like a rigorous ‘structured workout’ app for running than the simple drills mode I was anticipating; where we simply press ‘Lap’ button and adjust or confirm the length of the just done drill. And the drill itself is either defined on a whiteboard, plastic-wrapped paper sheet or in an ad hoc brain decision, not gang pressed like this unto our poor watches.

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                      nseslija Bronze Member @Likarnik
                      last edited by nseslija

                      @Likarnik power graph is ok on SA and Strava, maybe is filtered I see drops on the watch, very often, and not gradually drop to zero like when I stop pedaling but immediate. I don’t see drops in cadence, same device, and HR, so I doubt it’s a BT drop. I didn’t look in FIT file yet…

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                      • pilleusP Offline
                        pilleus @Likarnik
                        last edited by pilleus

                        @Likarnik

                        Activity in SA is okay 👍

                        It’s not a problem of the BLE connection, because cadence is working fine.

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                          Likarnik Bronze Member @nseslija
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                          @nseslija @pilleus thank you both. So it’s only watch display error, no need to downgrade (yet) 🙂

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                          • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
                            Александр Даниленко @Inge Nallsson
                            last edited by Александр Даниленко

                            @Inge-Nallsson yes
                            I configurated everything

                            The problem that the time counter doesnt count time if you dont have a hand movement. This is because when they were writing software, they linked drills time to a “moving time”, not the total time.

                            But the whole point of the drill mode is that it should count time and distance when there is no hands movement (or it should give an opportunity to put that distance manually, like it is done in garmin).

                            So this specific suunto plus app is completely useless, when in your drill you dont have hand movements (like a kickboard kicking, for example).

                            Just shortly to show how bad and absurd this app is, look at this screenshot. Drills distance (75m) bigger than total distance (25m)? Wtf?!

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                            P.S. Actually it is a huge problem of swimming in Suunto watch, because it is too much linked to moving time instead of total time. If in a “Pool swimming” you press lap button without swimming, it will always show you zero time. I dont know why Suunto didn’t do it normally like in other sport modes, where you press lap button and it gives you a time between 2 lap button presses. Feels like someone in Suunto just cant understand the problem and/or doesn’t know how their watches work.

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                              nseslija Bronze Member @Likarnik
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                              @Likarnik I hope so 😀

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                                Artus Diver @Inge Nallsson
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                                @Inge-Nallsson, @Александр-Даниленко

                                Unfortunately, what Suunto Plus Swim Drills “Kicking with Kickboard” offers is useless and does not work!
                                No time and distance measurement after pressing LAP.
                                Only configured screens change.
                                SuuntoApp does not have statistics for such an exercise.
                                Waste of time!

                                Drill.JPG

                                A similar situation with the new algorithm for counting the number of pools.
                                They started to change the old algorithm that worked and unfortunately the counting got worse.
                                After a few updates, the counting returned to normal, so why modify it as it worked?
                                By the way, the recognition of swimming styles was broken with these changes!
                                There is still no information when it will be fixed!

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                                According to the old software and some older Suunto models I can swim styles but not according to the new algorithm?

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                                • Inge NallssonI Offline
                                  Inge Nallsson @Александр Даниленко
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                                  @Александр-Даниленко said in Software Update 2.43.8/.12 (2025 Q2):

                                  So this specific suunto plus app is completely useless, when in your drill you dont have hand movements (like a kickboard kicking, for example).

                                  Yes, I agree. Tried it out myself today. Since I usually end swimming sessions with Kickboard I had ‘programmed’ the App with 50 metres Kickboard as the first step, and then 50m Kickboard as step number two - 'cos I do alternating breast/freestyle legwork.

                                  The positive thing was that we can go forwards and backwards in the list of steps with top and bottom buttons, or repeat the whole list when ended. The negative, as you point out, was that no time was shown during the steps due to no arm movements, AND no distance got logged for my 4x50m kicks!

                                  As for the whole handling of ‘Lap button’ presses in swimming… I wrote a lengthy post about it some time ago on this forum and at least one of the moderators (I think it was) understood the problem. Not much else we can do…

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                                  • Inge NallssonI Offline
                                    Inge Nallsson @Artus Diver
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                                    @Artus-Diver said in Software Update 2.43.8/.12 (2025 Q2):

                                    By the way, the recognition of swimming styles was broken with these changes!

                                    I also have to agree with this statement. The last two algorithm changes have, in my case, tweaked away breast stroke recognition and, for that style, lap counting. Today I opened with 2x100 freestyle. No problems and correct distances. Then I did 100 breast strokes… 25 metres freestyle was logged!

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                                    • MiroslavaM Offline
                                      Miroslava @Artus Diver
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                                      @Artus-Diver
                                      ok so swim drills is a completely useless feature. As far as swimming is concerned at least breaststroke style does it calculate the correct lengths? Thanks

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                                      • MiroslavaM Offline
                                        Miroslava @Inge Nallsson
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                                        @Inge-Nallsson I’ve been waiting for the correct calculation of the pool length in breaststroke style for quite a long time, so nothing has changed. I don’t know how it is possible that the previous updates knew this. I’ve only had the watch since April, but people wrote that the old versions always calculated the lengths correctly. Even the regular Suunto 3 fitness watch that I had 5 years ago calculated the breaststroke style without a single error. I really don’t understand it

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                                          Artus Diver @Miroslava
                                          last edited by Artus Diver

                                          @Miroslava
                                          Yes, for me the Suunto Plus swimming exercises in its current functionality are a completely useless feature.

                                          After replacing the old algorithm with a new one, my watch (Suunto Vertical) became useless for swimming in the pool. It counted however it wanted and whatever it wanted. It divided the intervals randomly and underestimated the swimming distances.

                                          In desperation, I sent the watch to Suunto service.

                                          They performed “calibration and configuration” whatever that means and the watch started counting.

                                          Currently, it counts very well in each of the 4 swimming styles.

                                          Sometimes it is off by + - 25m when I swim, for example, 1000m continuously alternating the dynamic style (butterfly) and back the slow style (on the back).

                                          Unfortunately, the algorithm stopped recognizing swimming styles correctly (front crawl, on the back).

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                                          • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
                                            GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Artus Diver
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                                            @Artus-Diver again downgrade to 2.37.48 solved this issue

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