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Hello,
This subject has been discusses for 9 peak pro here https://forum.suunto.com/topic/8732/resume-later?_=1723051616481.
But it applies to all ‘serious’ watchesthere are many discussions and alt solutions.
BUT for those who run ultra trail in 35/50 hours or plus, and not less 24h like François D’Haene or Alexandre Boucheix
the resume later feature is excellent to preserve battery life AND also avoiding to restart or terminate or far worst discard the activity during long pause at important aid stations.We need to eat, to sleep, even shower / change our clothes… During that time we are tired, not always 100% focus, prone to errors.
The option to Resume later is mandatory for that use case, save battery life and ensure we do not terminate the actvity, and also having the simple time of day and not the pause screen is also a plus
Using complex option to merge, to upload multiple activity etc etc, to use usb charger are not good option in that context.
I really miss this one from GARMIN, and I am sure it’s quite simple to implement.
ps:
1/ I was pleased to see some ergonomic ‘fix’ like pause on map screen, or total time without pause data as new parameter. The only thing I miss from GARMIN is that resume later for ultra trail ( or ultra distance, or ultra activity )
2/ I switched from epix pro 51 to race for the map reactivity which was my main concern and very satisfied with that choiceRegards
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@Matteiva sorry but I disagree with you. Whatever the time of race, whole time counts, so I would certainly not use resume later option in that case.
Battery life of Vertical is enought for very long journey with no charging (it will work for 50 hours races for sure, with maps and best gps performances)
Race a bit less but charge is very fast
Race S less but charge is very very fastI use SV and SRs, I never have used other gps modes than best performances.
My longest race was the “Echappée Belle”, 43hours ; at the end SV was far from to 0% battery !
I would rather have a merging option than a resume later.
I still can’t imagine in which situation I would like to resume later. If I stop an activity, it means that I do something else for a “long” time. So when I start again it’s another activity. Otherwise I use pause. -
I read the old thread and yes, I think it would be really useful to have the “Resume later” option, mostly because it would allow to use other watch functions while the activity is stopped.
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@Tieutieu said in "Resume later" for race, race-s and vertical and all incoming watches:
I would rather have a merging option than a resume later.
I second that
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This has been covered in other threads but I’m also voting for merging later or, possibly, the ability to have a ‘set’ of workouts that are related bundled into a group.
My primary use of merging or grouping is with 24 hour lap events where you can do a few laps, stop and rest, go again for some laps, stop and sleep, do some more laps etc. within a 24 hour time limit.
Yes, I know even the Race S can record for more than 24 hours for a single activity but I don’t need it recording 4 hours of me sleeping…
There reason I suggest the grouping option (maybe with the ability to export the group as a single merged activity) is that it can also be useful to review the pre-merged activities, compare them etc.
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@far-blue why not using “pause”?
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If like the ability to merge on long trips, for example a multi day adventure. It would be nice to see it as one file.
The are various packages that can do this, Garmin Basecamp I normally use.
In my view on a “race” your rest time is part of the event even if it is four hours of sleeping. I’d just press pause. If you are sleeping for much longer than that in my view it is no longer a single event.
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I isazi moved this topic from Feature Suggestions on
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@Tieutieu hello
Didn t you read my all args ?
it s not all about batteryWhen using current pause system one can by mistake restart, terminate or worst discard activity. When changing clothes etc etc.
Of course I use pause during normal pause. But for important aid station where you could stay 45mn it s a risk and also 45mn of battery waisted for nothing ( or almost 45 ln )
Having the watch in normal hour mode is cool and enough for that special moments
Resume later implemented by garmin keeps total time and total pause time of course. So you continue your race with all data ( distance, élévation etc etc ). By the way total time with pause included, during ultra race is one of major data, this parameter on screen came very recently
Stopping an activity and restarting a new one eveything is lost, so not an option. Merge later didn t mean nothing here in a race context.Try a garmin watch and resume later feature during an ultra and you ll see how cool this feature is
Moreover I insist it might be easy to implement, very far from a web suunto site
so why beeing so against that feature that is very cool in garmin watch for those who need this ?One more word about current pause feature, if you look at the map while in pause mode you ll see your erratic movement while normaly in pause, I suspect gps still on, still recording, and later the algo cuts that log part. So I guess battery drains the same as in activity.
And about battery life we are not all super athlete or owner of vertical solar, suunto race got 50 hours ( if you also want map feature ) that could be challenging in diagonale des fous for example. So having the ability to save 2h of long pause is still great
( vertical not solar 60h )Regards
MattPs: I also did multiple grp 120k & diagonale des fous, and I found resume later very handfull and safe helping to cool down at aid station
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If a “Resume Later” feature reloaded/generated the activity’s track (breadcrumb/red line), it would provide some sort of opportunity to backtrack. (As deprecated since the Ambit and much missed by some.) Might be easier for Suunto than recreating the specific Track Back function.
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@Matteiva i have only done some 34h+ races so far and never needed stop my activity to then start the same one again.
But I get you would like it.
So I guess this idea has made it to Suunto Product Managers maybe some time ago. Priorities were set differently.As Suunto does not have this, here’s an idea how to make the paused state less “dangerous” for you: when the watch is paused, you can still enable the button lock, so you don’t accidentally end your activity.
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@Egika thank you for your constructive suggestion considering existing features
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To add more information about the garmin implementation, resume later means when you want to start an activity it resumes the previous activity, you can not “restart” old activities, you can not start a fresh activity
So I guess there is a “memory” slot where the activity is referenced, and once you want to do a fresh start it loads that context and no choice than to start or to terminate this.
Just for information
Have a good day and activities to everyone
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@far-blue great idea to be able to group activities ! Would be awesome to have a global statistics for multiple day trip !
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@Matteiva yep I read your args of course. I’m still convinced that saving 2h of battery during a race is a non sens to me vs speed recharging on race and race S. On one side you’ll save 4 to 10% of battery, missing record of part of your race. On the other side, within 1hour or less you can fully recharge your watch. As you described that your not a « top athlete », it also means you’ll take some time to aid stations, so charging watch even 10 or 15min seems the best option (imho achieving races like diagonale des fous makes you a top athlete whatever your time !)
The most saving strategy of battery is changing battery mode, putting backlight to 0, not using maps…
I understand the risk of stopping an activity, but after thousands of activities in very various cases it happened to me only once with my Suunto baro 9 which add very big butttons (but pausing unintentionally sometimes on my race S and very rarely on my sv)
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@Tieutieu those 9 Baro buttons pressed on thier own I’m sure… I always locked the screen…
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@Matteiva said in "Resume later" for race, race-s and vertical and all incoming watches:
During that time we are tired, not always 100% focus, prone to errors.
For this reason, I don’t even pause my watch. I would prefer to just lock it and not unlock it until the finish. If I use “stop and resume later” option, more likely than not I’d forget to resume it.
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My previous watch, a forerunner 965, had resume later (although being garmin, it was quite buggy)
I used it once in a while, mainly during social rides, where there was a coffee stop half way. It’s somewhat convenient to be able to use your watch as a watch in that time. But I don’t see it as a must have.
There are other, more important functions missing on a suunto. Mainly configuration options, like specifying which datafield are on the lap screen, or more fine grained options for alarms, or vibrations and beeps.
Live tracking on garmin is also a nice to have. (Yes, there are third party options but they don’t start automatically, use the gps of the phone and drain the battery and cannot show the route you plan to follow)
Trackmode, on the other hand, doesn’t add any value for me. I train on a track every week. On a track, it’s easy to know distance due to marks on the track and you know in what time to run the intervals. Basically, all you need is a stopwatch. That strava doesn’t show a trail snapped to the lane, isn’t a problem that needs to be solved.
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@elbee said in "Resume later" for race, race-s and vertical and all incoming watches:
Live tracking on garmin is also a nice to have. (Yes, there are third party options but they don’t start automatically, use the gps of the phone and drain the battery and cannot show the route you plan to follow)
Live tracking is now available for Suunto’s (S9pp, Race, Race S, Vertical). Not a Suunto development (for now ?) but works well.
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For me it’s unacceptable option that Vertical doesn’t have resume later option and possibility to go back into main menu/watch mode. My perspective is tactical user and thruhiker. I used to use fenix series and for me it’s should be basic option. I’m shocked that Suunto doesn’t have this option. So after 1 week of using Vertical I’m planning to sell my watch and buy new garmin fenix. I like battery life of Suunto but for me now suunto vs garmin, taking consideration topics above, is like some basic smartwatch… Garmin has possibility of using any option during using sport modes and its adjustable in any way. Also has option to adjust a lot of setups during activity. Suunto? What’s went wrong???
