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    Serious problems with navigation with GPX routes

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      maszop Bronze Member @Egika
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      @Egika Custom: GPS - best, Touch - disabled, Display timeout - off.
      Basically all like a Performance mode but with touchscreen disabled.

      Other options
      Custom mode hiking.
      Ruler: disabled.
      SuuntoPlus (yesterday’s setup): Last km/mile, Weather Insights,
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        maszop Bronze Member @maszop
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        I’ve done some more tests recently.

        It’s possible to add a completely newly designed or imported to SuuntoApp route to the watch during an activity. It doesn’t have to be saved in SuuntoApp beforehand. There are some problems with synchronization during an activity, but it works eventually.

        However, there’s a rather annoying bug when changing the route during an activity. During an ascent or descent, you can’t change it on the fly - there’s some conflict with Climb Guidance (black screen with X symbol on the watch). To get around this, you have to completely disable the current route (Breadcrumb option) and only then load a new route.

        I hope this gets fixed because I usually don’t have time to mess around in the field with such non-intuitive route changes.

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          maszop Bronze Member @maszop
          last edited by maszop

          @maszop Several months have passed, and of course, nothing has changed. The problems remain.

          It’s still impossible to change the route during ascent or descent.
          And there are still serious problems with breadcrumb display.

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            Highlands @maszop
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            @maszop I have the same problem on my Vertical.

            SV1&S9PP

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              maszop Bronze Member @Highlands
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              The problem still occurs with the latest software version.

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                Tieutieu Platinum Member
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                The only situation I have had issue was last summer when I had tried to modify the current route I was navigating on.
                That made my SV crash.
                Only happened once, since then I never tried again. But absolutely no issue to create/sending a new route to the watch while already recording and navigating, and then change the route.
                I did it yesterday while walking with my SRs, I had prepared two routes, one with waypoints and the other one without, to test new climb behaviour. I have changed maybe 10 times from one route to the other without any issue

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                  Audaxjoe
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                  I also have no issues changing routes mid activity. Or editing and then reloading. Not that that helps.

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                  Suunto 9 BARO
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                    maszop Bronze Member @Tieutieu
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                    @Tieutieu I just checked to be sure.
                    It doesn’t work during ascent/descent (red/green) – you have to select the “Breadcrumb” option first and then load a different route (with the same ascent/descent). Directly changing the route in these conditions doesn’t work.

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                      Tieutieu Platinum Member @maszop
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                      @maszop ok I’ll check if I have the same behaviour

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                        sky-runner Silver Members @maszop
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                        @maszop said in Serious problems with navigation with GPX routes:

                        The next problem is some strange things when managing routes in SuuntoApp. When deleting (unchecking) a route from the watch in SuuntoApp, it automatically restores itself during synchronization. Deleting routes from the watch requires multiple attempts in SuuntoApp, and sometimes it is even impossible.

                        I see this issue regularly. It is very difficult to unselect or delete a route. As @maszop said, it gets selected back right away. Deleting routes just doesn’t work sometimes - I delete a route but it doesn’t get deleted. Then I often end up in a situation where a route that I’ve just planned is not on the watch because it still has old routes that I no longer need and exceeds the 10 route limit. I always have to double check that a new route has been synced to the watch by starting a new activity and checking that the route is on the watch because that isn’t guaranteed at all.

                        For context, I run Suunto App on 3 devices (Android phone, Android tablet, and iOS app running on MacBook Pro computer) and sync with 2 watches, but only one device is actually paired with the watch.

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                          maszop Bronze Member @sky-runner
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                          @sky-runner I think the problem is having two (or more) Suunto Apps on two different devices – even when only one is connected to the watch.

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                            sky-runner Silver Members @maszop
                            last edited by sky-runner

                            @maszop That is quite possible. But that also means that Suunto hasn’t designed their synchronization protocol well. These problems are easily solvable - I can tell you that as someone who long time ago has worked on synchronization of bookmarks in Chrome browser between multiple devices and made that work reliably.

                            Also, to make to make it clear, only the app on my phone ever synchronizes data with watches, and only with one watch at a time. The other two apps are not connected. So this is not a concurrency issue.

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