What sport mode is missing from our watches in your opinion?

sky-runner

@Stefan-Kersting said in What sport mode is missing from our watches in your opinion?:

Ski ergo

I am curious, what would ski ergo mode possibly capture on the watch? I use ski ergo machine weekly doing a couple of high intensity sessions and record it as a part of my overall gym session. I don’t think the watch would be smart enough to capture any useful data from the arms motion, especially considering that the watch is only on one hand. Personally I wouldn’t bother using it probably because my ski ergo sessions are very short.

v.sacre

Do someone know the difference between these two sports mode:

randonnée à ski
ski de randonnée.

Both are available in SV2 (in addition to skimo, but this one make sense)

Stefan Kersting

@sky-runner my ski ergo can be up to a hour. There so many other sports modes where you can wonder what is the point with it. So why not add ski ergo?

sky-runner

@Stefan-Kersting I suspect that when Suunto adds a new sport, they have to consider compatibility with the FIT standard because activities are exported to third party platforms. FIT SDK is owned by Garmin, but it is de facto standard for fitness data file format followed by every company. If Suunto adds a new sport that is not supported by FIT SDK, there is a risk of future incompatibility. I’ve just checked and I didn’t see SkiErg there. In other words, I suspect Suunto has to follow Garmin’s lead because Suunto is a much smaller company.

sky-runner

To expand on FIT SDK supported sport profiles, here is what I see in a recent version of SDK. These are sports that could theoretically be supported by Suunto of they care about third party compatibility, which they should.

running
cycling
transition
fitness_equipment
swimming
basketball
soccer
tennis
american_football
training
walking
cross_country_skiing
alpine_skiing
snowboarding
rowing
mountaineering
hiking
multisport
paddling
flying
e_biking
motorcycling
boating
driving
golf
hang_gliding
horseback_riding
hunting
fishing
inline_skating
rock_climbing
sailing
ice_skating
sky_diving
snowshoeing
snowmobiling
stand_up_paddleboarding
surfing
wakeboarding
water_skiing
kayaking
rafting
windsurfing
kitesurfing
tactical
jumpmaster
boxing
floor_climbing
baseball
diving
hiit
racket
wheelchair_push_walk
wheelchair_push_run
meditation
disc_golf
cricket
rugby
hockey
lacrosse
volleyball
water_tubing
wakesurfing
mixed_martial_arts
snorkeling
dance
jump_rope

There are a few sub-sports that can be combined with the above sports. For example “running” can be combined with “treadmill”, “trail”, etc. As another example, “fitness_equipment” could be combined with “stair_climbing” - that is something that was mentioned earlier in this thread. Here is the list:

generic
treadmill
street
trail
track
spin
indoor_cycling
road
mountain
downhill
recumbent
cyclocross
hand_cycling
track_cycling
indoor_rowing
elliptical
stair_climbing
lap_swimming
open_water
flexibility_training
strength_training
warm_up
match
exercise
challenge
indoor_skiing
cardio_training
indoor_walking
e_bike_fitness
bmx
casual_walking
speed_walking
bike_to_run_transition
run_to_bike_transition
swim_to_bike_transition
atv
motocross
backcountry
resort
rc_drone
wingsuit
whitewater
skate_skiing
yoga
pilates
indoor_running
gravel_cycling
e_bike_mountain
commuting
mixed_surface
navigate
track_me
map
single_gas_diving
multi_gas_diving
gauge_diving
apnea_diving
apnea_hunting
virtual_activity
obstacle
breathing
sail_race
ultra
indoor_climbing
bouldering
hiit
amrap
emom
tabata
pickleball
padel
indoor_wheelchair_walk
indoor_wheelchair_run
indoor_hand_cycling
squash
badminton
racquetball
table_tennis
fly_canopy
fly_paraglide
fly_paramotor
fly_pressurized
fly_navigate
fly_timer
fly_altimeter
fly_wx
fly_vfr
fly_ifr

I see indoor_skiing in the list. But perhaps that isn’t the same as SkiErg.

2b2bff

@sky-runner and to expand on this there are even sub types. So, an activity tracked as commute could be registered as commute sub type.

ADidier

I’m missing native integration with my Concept2/PM5 rower so I can use the rowing activity profile and get precise metrics.

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Likarnik

@JunkyXXL not enough usage of this sport mode

Tomas5

@JunkyXXL you would need position autodetection to estimate calories

Tieutieu

to bring back to light, I miss :

fencing
via ferrata

Dušan Ković

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Ice climbing - if not mentioned already

peringmar

I’m missing native integration with my Concept2/PM5 rower so I can use the rowing activity profile and get precise metrics

@ADidier Big yes!

Egika

snow kiting

Artus Diver

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

I’m currently using a Suunto Vertical1 and Race 2.
Personally, I miss the functionality of underwater swimming in a pool using apnea.
It’s similar to freediving, but for distance, not depth.
I supplement my activity with “snorkeling,” but it’s not the same.

Depending on the equipment used, there are three main categories:

DYN (Dynamic with Monofin) – dynamic with a monofin.
DYNB (Dynamic with Bi-fins) – dynamic with double fins.
DNF (Dynamic No Fins) – dynamic without fins (swimming underwater using a stroke similar to the breaststroke).

For comparison, holding your breath in place (e.g., while lying on the surface of the pool) is called Static Apnea (STA).

What do you think Dimi, can this be added?

Egika

@Artus-Diver The monofin version is there: Mermaiding.
How about using this also for other fin options?

ADidier

It’s not really sports modes that are missing from the Suunto Run but rather compatibility and functions:

Compatibility with the Runna app
The rower mode exists but it’s a shame that we can’t connect the PM5 of the Concept2 to the watch as with Coros.
No running and cycling tests to fill in heart areas, thresholds, FTP.
The function “Climb guidance”

Artus Diver

@Egika
I’ve also used this “Mermaiding” mode, but it’s not what I expected.
I swim (and am learning) using the DYNB (Dynamic with Bi-fins) and DNF (Dynamic No Fins) techniques.
In the “Mermaiding” or “Snorkeling” disciplines, you press start, and it counts the time, depth, and number of dives… but there’s nothing else you can do (in my opinion, they’re the same sports with a different name).

I think advanced freedivers could elaborate more.

I’m a beginner in this area, and for me, the “Mermaiding” or “Snorkeling” activities lack advanced/automatic management of surface intervals and heart rate for recovery.

Example:

I free-swim for 50 meters (a distance, near the bottom of a swimming pool),

the time of the “dive” is measured,
depth,
heart rate (minimum/maximum),
the number of underwater strokes,
the number of the next free-swim (if the dive is consecutive),
maybe even saturation, but I’m not sure if this is a good indicator and wouldn’t it be better if it were measured during recovery?

I stop after 50 meters and press the “LAP” button. From that moment on, recovery time should be measured/estimated based on the underwater time and the current heart rate.

It would be helpful if the swimmer/diver could set an alarm for:

reaching the minimum heart rate (manually set),
reaching the manually set surface interval time,

Maybe add the “Breathing” function available in Suunto Plus for more effective recovery?

After reaching the designated surface interval time or the set minimum heart rate, the next dive begins.

The next step is to dive again as in step 1.

Egika

@Artus-Diver
Thank you for the explanation!
this sounds more like the function of an S+ app, than a sport mode to me.