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    • ADidierA Offline
      ADidier
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      Do you think ZoneSense would work with this armband (which measures HRV)?
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        Gunnar Bronze Member @ADidier
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        @ADidier According to what I have learned here: no. Your watch needs R-R data which optical sensors do not provide.

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          halajos Bronze Member @Gunnar
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          @Gunnar said in Armband and ZoneSense:

          @ADidier According to what I have learned here: no. Your watch needs R-R data which optical sensors do not provide.

          Exactly

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          • Manuel ExtremeM Offline
            Manuel Extreme
            last edited by Manuel Extreme

            I’ve read own Reddit that ZoneSense works with this optical heart rate monitor (Rhythm+2.0).
            A comparison of the data between a chest strap and this optical sensor would be necessary.

            https://www.scosche.com/scosche-rhythm-plus-2-0-heart-rate-monitor-armband

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              Freezer Bronze Member @Gunnar
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              @Gunnar, according to to Texas Instruments Technical Article from May 2018 OHRs can and do measure R-R intervals. They state:

              “Here’s further detail on some of the measurements possible with optical heart rate sensors:
              …
              R-R interval (heart-rate variability) – The R-R interval is the time between blood pulses; generally, the more varied the time between beats, the better. R-R interval analysis can be used as an indicator of stress levels and various cardiac issues.”
              (page 2)

              Source: https://www.ti.com/lit/ta/sszt726/sszt726.pdf?ts=1771583450198&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F

              I would presume that also Suunto’s OHR measure R-R intervals as they calculate night time HRV.

              That being said AFAIK the R-R measurements from OHR are not good (precise) enough for ZoneSense calculations which are thus limited to ECG (chest) straps. So even if Coospo OHR, or another OHR, does broadcast R-R interval data it would probably result in wrong/not accurate ZoneSense data.

              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8927864/

              Note that the HRV marketing of the Coospo might refer only to night time HRV calcualtion (as is the case with Polar Verity Sense).

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                The Lost Alien @ADidier
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                @ADidier I had the same sensor and tried it with ZoneSense, but it didn’t work.

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                  I have the Rhythm +2 band and recently updated its firmware to the new version that supports HRV. I’ve not tested but I don’t think it’s possible to do HRV alongside HR in a workout because you have to switch to HRV mode by triple-pressing the button. The docs indicate HRV mode is for apps such as HRV4Fitness rather than during workouts.

                  But I’ll try and see 🙂

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                    Gunnar Bronze Member @Freezer
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                    @Freezer Thank you for the detailed explanatiion. Lothar Matthäus would say “Again what learned” 😁

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                      cosme.costa
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                      The thing is that the OHR sensors (watch and armbands) can measure R-R doing estimations as they can measure the HR. They do not measure directly the electric pulses as the chest straps. Is for that that that they do not work with Zonesense.

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                        2b2bff Silver Members @cosme.costa
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                        @cosme.costa I think ZoneSense needs r-r data. I don’t know whether the watch can differ between ECG or OHR generated one. The HRM just has to deliver the r-r data to the watch to make it work.

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