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SuuntoPartnerTeam

… how does battery consumption will be impacted …

I don’t believe we test the battery consumption of submitted applications. Ultimately, it all depends on how much work the app is actively doing during an exercise.

… what is the « bug » risk for the watches …

Certainly buggy software will be written You can give written feedback to a developer in the store. Bugs shouldn’t cause any ‘‘risky’’ behaviour in the watch – the firmware usually disables any applications that crash. It may happen that a crashing application leads to a soft-reset of other running applications.

Isotop7

Is it possible to catch the “Press Lap Button” event in my app? If yes, how? I’ve searched the reference but can’t find it or I am unable to understand it

SuuntoPartnerTeam

@Isotop7 Good question! This is somewhat hidden in the documentation. You can respond to a lap button press using the onLap callback:

function onLap(input, output) { ... }

Also note that the lap button will work automatically, as long as you don’t override its user input handling.

Automatic laps can be handled with the onAutoLap callback:

function onAutoLap(input, output) { ... }

Tomas5

What are memory restrictions for different watch? How much memory can i use to allocate variables?

To clarify, i want render graph for HR and Altitude, i will store value every second. Do i need to agregate or can i just store all values in array? For 24h event it would be around 200kB if i use Uint8Array.

Of course i will do aggregation as it is not needed to store all values but i want to know how strict limits are.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Tomas5 that will defo crash. It can be hard for computers as well and has 0 benefit storing 1s reso on 200px (or so for example) screen.

You want to be storing max the pixels to show the data. And that is not much .

Tomas5

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos i agree and that was “overkill” example but knowing hardware limitations can greatly improve how specific algorithm is done. And can prevent crashes cased by using all memory. Without this knowledge it is based only on trial and error which is not great.

Maybe just some recommendations from dev team like don’t use more than 1kB of memory per Suunto Plus app at a time or something like that.

I am thinking about 2 scenarios:

Do just simple 45minute graph like native one.
Do 15/30/60/full graph with changeable view by button

But second one will require more memory. At least 4-5 times more than scenario one.

And than second issue i want HR and Altitude and maybe some other graphs. Based on memory restrictions i can make single S+ with changeable view or multiple smaller S+ with just one value.

surfboomerang

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos, @suuntopartnerteam To upload the developed SuuntoPlus app the instructions state that you have to apply for the Suunto Partner Program.

If I apply via this link: https://survey.alchemer.eu/s3/90553908/PARTNER-Become-a-Suunto-Partner it seems that it’s still aimed for companies rather than individuals. Is this the correct way to apply?

Tomas5

I see in documentation that for getting data for graph i don’t need store anything and i can read

Activity/Log/-1/Move/0/HeartRate/Avg/Data

But it looks like it doesn’t work.

And in section:

In: Native resources in the watch
I see that {Window} doesn’t support “Log” so which part of documentation is incorrect? Or do i understand something wrong?

There is even Example with this Hearth Rate graph but seems it doesn’t work in simulator and in watch (Suunto 5) too. @suuntopartnerteam can you point me in correct direction? Thanks.

Btw. Why sometimes in examples path to data start with / and sometimes not? Is it something like absolute and relative path?

orienteerdev

Hi,

I have question related to input data of S+ app. I have an app idea where the S+ app is the core and handles the logic. However, it would need location points as input and these inputs could be user specific and/or exercise specific. Thus the S+ app would require a way to get that input data somehow such that users could provide it.

I tried to discover whether it would be possible to provide the input data using S+ Guides but I did not find any indications from SuuntoPlus Reference that it would be possible to access the json of S+ Guide. If that would be possible then S+ Guides could be created via Cloud API and would be available for S+ app via Suunto App.

Another option I thought was utilizing routes. However I couldn’t find a reference is it possible to access stored routes in S+ app. I.e. I do not want user to start navigation but just have access to location points of stored route.

TL/DR

Is it possible to access S+ Guide (data) from S+ app?
Is it possible to access stored routes from S+ app (without navigation enabled)?

chus1962

Hi!

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Suunto Race S

I can’t connect the watch to SuuntoPlus Editor (to Deploy to Watch), neither via USB nor via BT (after MobileApp > Forget to unpair the watch).

surfboomerang

@chus1962 Is the “Discover” option enabled on your watch under connection settings?

assaf1007

Is there a documentation API ? i’m unable to find how to use current (accurate) HR as input (looked for “in” in manifest.json,couldn’t find…). i wish to try calculate HRV with statistics in real time & eventually use it/publish it.

(race2)

chus1962

@surfboomerang Yes, of course. Perhaps the problem is with the USB Bluetooth device (Generic Bluetooth Adapter). But what about using a USB connection?

brechtvb

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos The documentation says:

*Current watch firmwares:

Suunto 3, Suunto 5, Suunto 5 Peak, Suunto 9, Suunto 9 Baro and Suunto 9 Peak

Support only one connection at a time.
ATT Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) (i.e the maximum length of an ATT packet) is fixed to 23.
Suunto 9 Peak Pro, Suunto Vertical, Suunto Vertical 2, Suunto Race, Suunto Race S、Suunto Race 2、Suunto Ocean, Suunto Ocean Lite

Support two connections at a time.
ATT Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) (i.e the maximum length of an ATT packet) is fixed to 127.*

This looks like a device-wide limit? Will this be improved? This is a strong limitation.

Imagine a cyclist with: heart rate sensor, speed sensor, crank sensor and power meter.

That is very much impossible then.

Unpaired8373

I have a questions regarding the canvas element:
can I call a drawing function from main.js

Pottu

@chus1962 I have had some connecting problems as well. I have Suunto Race and for me this worked:

Forget mobileapp from watch.
Connect watch to laptop with bluetooth.
Sometimes the watch show automatically connected in vscode. If not try with “Enable BLE Debug Logging” from Command Palette.
If still not connecting disconnect from laptop bluetooth and start again from start.

Pottu

@assaf1007 Documentation can be found at least from vscode Command Palette: control + shift + p (or f1) and SuuntoPlus: Open Documentaton

Input for heartrate would be like

"in": [
  {
    "name": heartrate,
    "source": "/Activity/Move/-1/HeartRate/Current", 
    "type": "subscribe" 
  }
],

chus1962

@Pottu Thanks! As I suspected, my old USB BT Adapter isn’t able to connect to the Suunto Race S. I was able to connect it from another computer.

However, is the USB option via the charging cable not available? (despite what the SuuntoPlus Editor documentation says)

chus1962

Oh! When you sync the watch again with the Suunto App, the app S+ uploaded with SuuntoPlus Editor is deleted… It’s difficult to develop in these conditions unless you have a dedicated watch just for testing.

Pottu

@chus1962 At least my Suunto Race charger seems to be charge only. Mayby some other model has a different cable that can be used to connect also.