[Question] No stupid questions - ask anything here

orienteerdev

Hi,

I have question related to input data of S+ app. I have an app idea where the S+ app is the core and handles the logic. However, it would need location points as input and these inputs could be user specific and/or exercise specific. Thus the S+ app would require a way to get that input data somehow such that users could provide it.

I tried to discover whether it would be possible to provide the input data using S+ Guides but I did not find any indications from SuuntoPlus Reference that it would be possible to access the json of S+ Guide. If that would be possible then S+ Guides could be created via Cloud API and would be available for S+ app via Suunto App.

Another option I thought was utilizing routes. However I couldn’t find a reference is it possible to access stored routes in S+ app. I.e. I do not want user to start navigation but just have access to location points of stored route.

TL/DR

Is it possible to access S+ Guide (data) from S+ app?
Is it possible to access stored routes from S+ app (without navigation enabled)?

chus1962

Hi!

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Suunto Race S

I can’t connect the watch to SuuntoPlus Editor (to Deploy to Watch), neither via USB nor via BT (after MobileApp > Forget to unpair the watch).

surfboomerang

@chus1962 Is the “Discover” option enabled on your watch under connection settings?

assaf1007

Is there a documentation API ? i’m unable to find how to use current (accurate) HR as input (looked for “in” in manifest.json,couldn’t find…). i wish to try calculate HRV with statistics in real time & eventually use it/publish it.

(race2)

chus1962

@surfboomerang Yes, of course. Perhaps the problem is with the USB Bluetooth device (Generic Bluetooth Adapter). But what about using a USB connection?

brechtvb

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos The documentation says:

*Current watch firmwares:

Suunto 3, Suunto 5, Suunto 5 Peak, Suunto 9, Suunto 9 Baro and Suunto 9 Peak

Support only one connection at a time.
ATT Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) (i.e the maximum length of an ATT packet) is fixed to 23.
Suunto 9 Peak Pro, Suunto Vertical, Suunto Vertical 2, Suunto Race, Suunto Race S、Suunto Race 2、Suunto Ocean, Suunto Ocean Lite

Support two connections at a time.
ATT Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) (i.e the maximum length of an ATT packet) is fixed to 127.*

This looks like a device-wide limit? Will this be improved? This is a strong limitation.

Imagine a cyclist with: heart rate sensor, speed sensor, crank sensor and power meter.

That is very much impossible then.

Unpaired8373

I have a questions regarding the canvas element:
can I call a drawing function from main.js

Pottu

@chus1962 I have had some connecting problems as well. I have Suunto Race and for me this worked:

Forget mobileapp from watch.
Connect watch to laptop with bluetooth.
Sometimes the watch show automatically connected in vscode. If not try with “Enable BLE Debug Logging” from Command Palette.
If still not connecting disconnect from laptop bluetooth and start again from start.

Pottu

@assaf1007 Documentation can be found at least from vscode Command Palette: control + shift + p (or f1) and SuuntoPlus: Open Documentaton

Input for heartrate would be like

"in": [
  {
    "name": heartrate,
    "source": "/Activity/Move/-1/HeartRate/Current", 
    "type": "subscribe" 
  }
],

chus1962

@Pottu Thanks! As I suspected, my old USB BT Adapter isn’t able to connect to the Suunto Race S. I was able to connect it from another computer.

However, is the USB option via the charging cable not available? (despite what the SuuntoPlus Editor documentation says)

chus1962

Oh! When you sync the watch again with the Suunto App, the app S+ uploaded with SuuntoPlus Editor is deleted… It’s difficult to develop in these conditions unless you have a dedicated watch just for testing.

Pottu

@chus1962 At least my Suunto Race charger seems to be charge only. Mayby some other model has a different cable that can be used to connect also.

Squirrel

@chus1962 said in [Question] No stupid questions - ask anything here:

Oh! When you sync the watch again with the Suunto App, the app S+ uploaded with SuuntoPlus Editor is deleted… It’s difficult to develop in these conditions unless you have a dedicated watch just for testing.

That’s what I noticed in the thread about upcoming custom watch faces. When synced, your custom watch face will get deleted… What?
What’s the point then, if you can’t really use it just for yourself?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

I had it so that there was a toggle to not sync s+ in the app.

Steven Hambleton

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Why not just leave any apps alone that are only for you?

hitriy

Hey!
I went through the documentation and didn’t find an answer to my question.
Is it possible to fetch data not from watch sensors, but from the phone or internet via phone?
For example get custom notification, currency rates, weather and so on.

orienteerdev

This is actually what I’m curious too related to my previous message. Since the watch has a functionality to download updates via Suunto App and also download offline maps via WiFi, it would be nice to be able to utilize the storage of watch to have some input data for S+ app from external web source.

Basically this to be efficient and comfortable to users, the S+ app should be able to fetch data utilizing Suunto app via bluetooth and then Suunto App would do the web request.

There are quite many security/sandbox etc. issues to consider and we may not be there yet. However, I think this is the enabler for nice innovations and ecosystems.

SailingP

Hello @suuntopartnerteam,
First of all, I’d like to thank you for the opportunity to develop our own SuuntoPlus apps. This is a very pleasant surprise . Thank you very much.

I spent part of the weekend reading the documentation, reviewing examples, and experimenting. I have a request.
The provided documentation and examples are a good start, but could you please share the full documentation so we can develop apps that fully leverage the SuuntoPlus framework’s functionality?

Let me give you a few examples of what I am missing in the reference file, in the provided examples and in the how-to articles, and what I believe will help to develop new applications:

enum values. Few examples:

The graph class has an attribute grid. I found only one documented value “three lines” but the attribute grid can have more values: “none”, “central line” and documented “three lines”.
The graph class has an attribute type. I found the documented values “bar” and “line”. The enum has additional values “dot line” (works) and “separate bars” (~~does not work for me~~ not implemented yet).

class attributes. Examples:

The graph class has more attributes: sampleFilter, windowType, windowSize, marker, fillReference etc.

I would greatly appreciate it if more detailed documentation could be made available . Thank you in advance.

SailingP

said in [Question] No stupid questions - ask anything here:

The graph class has an attribute type. I found the documented values “bar” and “line”. The enum has additional values “dot line” (works) and “separate bars” (does not work for me).

Clarification: I discovered that the enum value “separate bars” exists, but the functionality has not been implemented yet.

ook

@chus1962 ~~I having the same issue with u with my Mac OS,trying to connect with suuntolink via USB and bluetooth also,both not working, discovery is turn on too~~
just find out there is some requirements need to follow and setup in order to connect with bluetooth, now is all work.