Will OpenSuuntoPlus be coming to Suunto Run?
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@JebClydeNC I don’t follow your rationale … You cannot be arguing that you lose something by having additional options … on the contrary, not having options means you lose the option of having something
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It will be great if Suunto plan to add a compability between Suunto Run and My Plan for syncing it.
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I have been using suunto run for a long time. From the beginning of October 2025. I have run almost 1800 km and nothing is missing from the watch.
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@thanasis said in Will OpenSuuntoPlus be coming to Suunto Run?:
@JebClydeNC I don’t follow your rationale … You cannot be arguing that you lose something by having additional options … on the contrary, not having options means you lose the option of having something
I also don’t get Jeb’s reasoning. As someone with a Race S, I have access to the Suunto+ store, but I can simply ignore it if I wish.
The Run has access to different watch faces, yes? In my eyes, these are similar capabilities. You need to go to the Suunto app and “add on” either an additional watch face or a Suunto+ app, but there’s never any requirement to do either. One can ignore both capabilities if one wishes.
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@thanasis said in Will OpenSuuntoPlus be coming to Suunto Run?:
@JebClydeNC I don’t follow your rationale … You cannot be arguing that you lose something by having additional options … on the contrary, not having options means you lose the option of having something
Well, I see @jebclydenc point. The Run has many S+ features built into the watch so fewer S+ features would be used. Second, if future S+ features require more memory that an older watch does not have that could be problematic.
I personally like the Run a lot, it has dramatically improved since I started testing for Suunto. I typically don’t need maps when following a route and often will check my phone anyway. I would likely use two watches from Suunto, the Run and Vertical2. I would use the Run for daily and most of my workouts and the V2 for SkiMo and mountain workouts where I need a map. -
@Brad_Olwin said in Will OpenSuuntoPlus be coming to Suunto Run?:
@thanasis said in Will OpenSuuntoPlus be coming to Suunto Run?:
@JebClydeNC I don’t follow your rationale … You cannot be arguing that you lose something by having additional options … on the contrary, not having options means you lose the option of having something
Well, I see @jebclydenc point. The Run has many S+ features built into the watch so fewer S+ features would be used. Second, if future S+ features require more memory that an older watch does not have that could be problematic.
Theoretically, couldn’t Suunto have a setup where an app that has a demanding requirement not show up for Run users but only for those who meet the requirements? Feels like this objective is a QA user more than anything else. Alternatively, if someone on any watch downloads a S+ app and finds it “problematic” then they can remove that app (and ideally, report it as bugged to Suunto).
I personally like the Run a lot, it has dramatically improved since I started testing for Suunto. I typically don’t need maps when following a route and often will check my phone anyway.
I don’t have a quarrel with the Run for its lack of S+ ability, as I think that makes for a clear line showing why one might pay for for a Race, etc. However, it also means S+ isn’t a “core experience”.
I do think the limited sport modes is silly in comparison. People will just end up tagging some sessions with a slightly less useful tag in most cases. Now if there is a limitation of how many modes a watch can “hold” then have a core set and let people select from a list what secondaries they have — I think maybe Polar does something like this?
Finally, while I’m here, I’ll repeat I think it was silly for Suunto to give the Run the ability to do offline music playback but not include it further up the line. People say that’s due to limitations of the older watches, but Race 2 came out after Run and still doesn’t have it.
Yes, I realize the Run has its own OS and that’s probably part of the reason, but I think it’s kind of dumb they rolled a new OS for just one thing. Mostly though, I think it makes purchasing decisions sillier than they need to be. If I want both maps and offline music, there’s no Suunto solution for that, even though they have watches that offer either solution. This makes Suunto feel more like Garmin in my mind, giving an impression of being more fragmented with different teams on different watches not paying attention to what the other team is doing.
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As a software engineer I wish I could have the opportunity to develop apps for Suunto Run. I don’t understand why Suunto Run isn’t included in programmable watches.
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@Iraklis-Markelis said in Will OpenSuuntoPlus be coming to Suunto Run?:
As a software engineer I wish I could have the opportunity to develop apps for Suunto Run. I don’t understand why Suunto Run isn’t included in programmable watches.
Technically why Run isn’t included, is because when they developed Run, they made a new OS for it; it does not share the same OS as Race/Vertical.
As for why Suunto did that, I suspect part of it was due to the price they wanted to set Run, low enough to attract people. However, at the same time, if the Run had the exact same feature set as the Race, and was cheaper, then why would anyone get the Race?
Therefore, the design of the Run was such that it would have less features than the Race and Suunto could then charge a lower price for Run while keeping some features to encourage people to spend more to get the Race.
SuuntoPlus is one of the main features the Race has that the Run does not.
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@raven
Personalmente non sono minimamente d’acordo! Sono nuovo del mondo Suunto e non ho speso 240 Euro per poi spenderne altre 490 per il Race2. Molte altre case produttrici danno accesso al loro market di applicazioni, campi dati e quadranti. Basta solamente fare una cernita dei widget, allenamenti e altre cose e magari metterle a pagamento per il Suunto Run. Ma blindare un orologio solo con le applicazioni volute mi sembra esagerato, e se fosse così, credo che sia esagerato anche il prezzo del Run. Altri orologi di base, di marche ben conosciute, hanno questa funzionalità. Per il momento resterò sicuramente con suunto Run, ma per gli allenamenti e i Coach utilizzerò i miei orologi di altre marche, che le offrono gratis. Non credo che questa sia una buona politica di marketing (IMHO).
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@Giorgio60 said in Will OpenSuuntoPlus be coming to Suunto Run?:
@raven
Personalmente non sono minimamente d’acordo! Sono nuovo del mondo Suunto e non ho speso 240 Euro per poi spenderne altre 490 per il Race2. Molte altre case produttrici danno accesso al loro market di applicazioni, campi dati e quadranti. Basta solamente fare una cernita dei widget, allenamenti e altre cose e magari metterle a pagamento per il Suunto Run. Ma blindare un orologio solo con le applicazioni volute mi sembra esagerato, e se fosse così, credo che sia esagerato anche il prezzo del Run. Altri orologi di base, di marche ben conosciute, hanno questa funzionalità. Per il momento resterò sicuramente con suunto Run, ma per gli allenamenti e i Coach utilizzerò i miei orologi di altre marche, che le offrono gratis. Non credo che questa sia una buona politica di marketing (IMHO).
GrazieNo, you misunderstand. The idea is not you spend 490 after spending 240, but instead if you had done research, you’d spend the 490 instead of the 240 if the Suunto+ functionality was something you needed. It’s not that you’re supposed to buy two watches but instead the watch that meets your needs.
Note I wasn’t the one who made the decision on what features Run was not going to get. I’m simply making a guess at what Suunto was thinking.
They want the Run at an entry price point, and Race at a higher point with more features. What features do you leave off the Run to accomplish this?
If the Run and Race have the exact same features, then they should have the same price and there’s no need for them both to exist.
I do think with Suunto now encouraging more people to make S+ apps it’s weird the entry model cannot run them. If it was a “base feature” then that’s more encouragement for more people to make apps.
Anyway, perhaps Suunto will change their minds and add on the capability to run S+ apps from the Run, but given the Run is a separate OS, it’s not simply “putting back” something they took away but instead re-engineering the feature for that OS.
Finally, if you think the Run is overpriced, then what watch would you prefer instead? Perhaps Suunto was not the best fit for you to begin with.
