BASIC FEATURES

Egika

I don’t understand what you mean by “option to navigate the watch during an activity”.
under the shower you can lock the screen. Just assign the lock function to one button as a shortcut.
Or change the raise-to-wake function from full wake mode to display only.
resume later has been discussed before. might come some day but not tomorrow
more data in map screen will come very soon

Yuurei

I don’t understand what you mean by “option to navigate the watch during an activity”.

I assume Enzo meant the ability to exit an activity without stopping it, to use other watch features, and then return to the activity.

2b2bff

@Egika said in BASIC FEATURES:

I don’t understand what you mean by “option to navigate the watch during an activity”.

I think the possibility to use Watch features that aren’t part of the activity, like setting a timer or an alert or just look at the watch face or widgets.
Like Garmin, where you just long press the lap button and you can fully access your watch while the activity is tracked in the background…

Speed Man

@2b2bff Why don’t you just use Garmin? It’s much easier. But honestly, you can’t expect everyone to be the same. If Suunto made watches that felt as pointless as Garmin’s, I wouldn’t buy Suunto either.

2b2bff

@Speed-Man don’t shot the messenger. I’m not the one who started this thread…

jannis

@Speed-Man Nobody is forcing you to use such features. It’s about having a choice. Really, companies love such clients. Let everything like it is, everything is great.

Nelson Diogo

@Enzo-W

About feature 1. On the Suunto Run I can exit activity menus and see all the widgets and other stuff. I just long press lower button.

aiv4r

@jannis because every feature is development time that could be spend on an other feature. Also more features - more bugs. So of course people do not want bullshit features (in their opinion). The problems is everybody is different, so it is hard to strike a balance. But my hope is also that Suunto will not waste time on scores and other irelevant magic numbers as Garmin.

Manuel Extreme

@aiv4r The market doesn’t seem to suggest that Garmin’s features are irrelevant. On the contrary, they appear to be highly appreciated, given the sales volumes achieved without advertising or influencer marketing.

Speed Man

@Manuel-Extreme Honestly, from what I see, it’s the opposite in my case.

Garmin relies heavily on well-known celebrities and high-profile figures wearing their products. And people just follow- buying into it because they admire those personalities.

It starts to feel a bit like a cult mentality. Even when something isn’t entirely correct, it still gets defended as if it is.

aiv4r

@Manuel-Extreme cheesy novels also sells way better than science literature, doeas that mean they are better? people have their preferances, most of the people buy because they do not know other brands exists. Also I have seen way more Garmin influencers than other brands combined.

Yuurei

@aiv4r To be frank I see way more influencers (or so called shoetubers) with Coros watches, than Garmin.

sky-runner

@Enzo-W said in BASIC FEATURES:

Disable the touchscreen - it’s unbearable, all the settings change in the shower or during heavy rain. I wonder if the engineers even test their tools.

This is the worst and the most annoying thing. Settings change on their own without me noticing it and then I wonder why features unexpectedly don’t work. Just in my recent memory:

Do not disturb mode activated and the display was less bright and I didn’t receive notifications
Airplane mode activated and I could not use external HR sensor when starting an activity
Always on display activated, which resulted in higher battery usage
Power saving activated
Button lock activated
Receive mobile notifications option deactivated and I was wondering why my watch didn’t notify me about meetings and phone calls. This particular one took me several days to figure out because this was deep in the settings.

I don’t remember a single case of anything like that with a Garmin watch. I wonder why people think that Suunto watches are buggy. This may be one of the reasons. People may not connect being in a shower with this happening.

I was able to reduce probability of the above happening by changing the default widget (Pin widget function) from Control Panel to something else.

sky-runner

@Egika said in BASIC FEATURES:

under the shower you can lock the screen. Just assign the lock function to one button as a shortcut.
Or change the raise-to-wake function from full wake mode to display only.

In my opinion none of the above are good solutions. Locking the screen is something that is easy to forget. Furthermore, with the watch having only two buttons, both buttons are already used for shortcuts I use daily - Find My Phone and Flashlight.

Changing raise-to-wake function from full wake to display only is bad solution too because it means I would always be limited to a very limited AOD watchface and never see the full watchface unless I press a button. What’s the point of having various watch faces then? I tried this and this option is a non-starter.

This problem with the touch wrecking havoc should not exist in the first place with us looking for a workaround. I don’t want touch. How about giving me an option to disable it permanently outside of map? Alternatively, there could be an option for touch auto-lock that would disable touch on the main watchface after a certain timeout requiring me to press a physical button. This would be less disruptive is this applied only to the main watchface. I would gladly use either option. Finally, Suunto could make an effort and figure out an touch rejection when a lot of droplets are detected on the screen. I know technology like that does exist.

aiv4r

@Yuurei haha probably depends on place in the world and algo but very well may be, just wanted to make a point to the statement saying that Garmin do not use influencers, which is clearly not true.

apparentlypeer

Hi,

great to have the opportunity here:

using the watch as a sensor for other devices (especially when doing indoor tracking)
seeing the battery of the watch somehow, somewhere during an activity
starting navigation from the middle point of a route (when I did it I just got “off track”)
ability to import activities from .fit files
easier access to detailed data from everyday life (aka NOT activities)

Egika

@apparentlypeer said in BASIC FEATURES:

Hi,

great to have the opportunity here:

All of what you list ist already there. Have you asked in the forum first?

using the watch as a sensor for other devices (especially when doing indoor tracking)

coming with update

seeing the battery of the watch somehow, somewhere during an activity

depending on the watch model, just press and hold the lower button -> voila
Or you can easily add the battery percentage in your custom sport mode. There’s also battery run time available as a data field.

starting navigation from the middle point of a route (when I did it I just got “off track”)

just start moving in one direction of the route. It will get your position after a short time.

ability to import activities from .fit files

you can do this using Quantifiedself or Runalyze to upload fit files into your Suunto account.

easier access to detailed data from everyday life (aka NOT activities)

not sure what “easier” means in specific. I go into the calendar tab, select a specific day and have more information than I need…

apparentlypeer

@Egika thanks a lot! Very insightful!

just start moving in one direction of the route. It will get your position after a short time.

As I mentioned, my experience was unfortunately that it didn’t get me starting half way at all but just showed “off route” until the end.

you can do this using Quantifiedself or Runalyze to upload fit files into your Suunto account.

I’m aware, but this is as you show exactly not a feature of Suunto itself, and I find it weird and abbit annoying that I need to go through a third party.

not sure what “easier” means in specific. I go into the calendar tab, select a specific day and have more information than I need…

maybe “access” was the wrong term; I want to export the actual data and not just see the info. I don’t see the option to export the data I see in the daily view you mentioned (and it would be a bit of a hussle to do this for all days by hand instead of me specifying a time frame and getting all data at once. With “easier”, I mean that to my knowledge it is currently only possible to get your data via a request to Suunto where you need to mention EU law and that they are required to give you the data (thoguh this is based on a Reddit post and not my personal experience).

soisan

@apparentlypeer Just go the App settings, then to the account settings and choose “export my data”.

apparentlypeer

@soisan thanks!! Wasn’t aware and I just read elsewhere that this was a hassle; my mistake!