What do you expect from the next update?

[dreamer_]

@sky-runner said:

@Highlands said:

IMHO MiP watches amongst outdoor enthusiasts are preferred and amoled is a niche

MIP has a worse contrast especially when paired with sapphire crystal. With age, eyes lose ability to clearly see low contrast details. I always preferred MIP but now I have switched to AMOLED and will never go back to MIP.

In my opinion MIP will become fully obsolete in a few years when microLED technology matures. MicroLED will provide high contrast and high resolution combined with higher efficiency approaching efficiency of MIP. And unlike AMOLED, microLED doesn’t have a problem with burn-in.

Also, nobody produces MIP displays anymore because there is very little demand for it. With sparse supply, the cost is higher. There maybe one or two producers of small round MIP displays remaining. That’s why it is being phased out by Garmin and other brands.

Garmin did a poor job with the Fenix 7/Pro and its solar panel. Furthermore, the sapphire crystal significantly compromises the MIP technology. Personally, I think the Fenix 8 MIP looks much better, though I believe they should have used the Power Glass from the Fenix 6X Pro Titanium Solar instead of sapphire (although that watch did have an inferior solar panel compared to the Fenix 8).

The Garmin Forerunner 955 (non-Solar) and the Coros Nomad are great examples; using them makes you realize just how good the technology is. Beyond being energy-efficient, it is the ideal technology for running in highly technical terrain and outdoor environments. But while those are very good, the Instinct 3 is truly impressive. There is something about that watch’s screen contrast that makes it perfectly legible even when your wrist is held almost vertically. That Instinct 3 has the same new Solar panel as the Fenix 8 . I don’t think I’ll ever go back to an AMOLED screen or deal with the wrist-gesture lag (which feels very slow on Suunto watches, by the way)—and I’ve owned screens from every brand.

I don’t think that microled energy efficient scenario will happen. Microled is very power hungry, a lot more than Amoled.
The super energy efficient technology is MIP, and that efficiency the hard thing to accomplish. What we need is just better crystals, nothing more. Fast, and easy solution.

[sartoric]

can we at least stay in topic ?

[thailon]

I expect THE update.

[VoiGAS]

@thailon I feel the same, if its just an update it still ensures the V1 is supported. Even if it just the post activity recovery feature or another gimmick.
The only thing I would really like would be the Running Dynamics features. But thats just hope, no expectation…

[Luis Andés Olmedo]

I do not expect any update, V1 has everything I need for my use. The only thing I’d improve is the HR sensor but that can’t be solved with a SW update

[Thaler Martin]

Endlich eine bessere wacherkennung beim schlaf …sie wird immer fast dir ganze mit leichtschlaf überschrieben…schlafzeiten manuell zu bearbeiten…Hauttemperatur Aufzeichnung in der Nacht…Verbesserung der Ressourcen die laden sich viel zu schnell auf und verlieren zu langsam nach unten…bin immer auf 70-100…
Sportbereich ist top bin begeistert davon…

[VoiGAS]

@Luis-Andés-Olmedo Maybe it can? They optimized OHR on the Race S with one of the last updates.
This would be really great, weight and OHR accuracy are the only reasons I use the Race S from time to time

[BrunoH]

@Luis-Andés-Olmedo

I’d be happy about the daily alarms. Currently I am adjusting my alarms every night according to my kids’ schedules. That’s all I need. Everything else works just fine for my needs.

[Milan Šádek]

@BrunoH Exactly. There aren’t many new features I’d actually use—just daily alarms, a configurable map data field, and more route storage on the watch. As an iOS user, I’d also love better per-app notifications and predefined replies, though even the newest models still lack those.

[Luis Andés Olmedo]

Obviously, each of us has a different need. I do not use my V1 to sleep and for the past 2 months (since I bought a mechanical steel watch for daily use), I only use it for running, swimming, biking, and kettlebell workouts.

[Steven Hambleton]

I’d love a red light option for the flashlight (Race S screen flashlight) and automatic update of my min and max HR based on resting or sleeping heart rate.

[thailon]

Maybe, they could fix the firmware just to get live tracking app functional again.

[kuba1234]

reconnection to Bluetooth sensors after connection was lost during workout! It is a bug from one of recent software updates. In my case, I have to turn off Bluetooth by changing the battery mode and then turn it on again. only after that the watch will try to reconnect! Otherwise it will never reconnect and I have to finish workout and start another one

[g.tsafos]

• Add extra option to Enable/disable sleep mode without sleep start-end time.

• Add breathing exercise/s for lowering blood presure (im 50 ) with the optional use of the metronome function to the Spark as well.

• Use screen as a safety beacon for cars and SOS signaling

[Woodster]

For me here’s a few improvement ideas ( in no particular order )

[1]
Recoverable Resources % after a crash/reset - I do find resources useful when it’s working so if it crashes near the end of the day it gets reverted back to 70%

[2]
Custom alarms e.g Mon/Wed/Fri in addition to Once and Weekdays/Weekend options

[3]
Have a virtual pacer build in to run profiles i.e. set distance and time together not either/or

[4]
Automatic max heart rate/lactate threshold detection ( power and heart rate )

[5]
Connect external sensors on-the-fly and re-connect if anything goes wrong

[6]
Add FTMS support so we can control smart bike trainers via a workout or manually adjust the Watts/Grade/Resistance Level

[7]
Built in workout screens so you can save an S+ slot used by Suunto Guides

[8]
Much bigger fonts and light mode for Suunto Guides. There is opportunity to have more graphics e.g heart rate/power/pace gauges and turn into a more user-engaging experience

[9]
Built-in Strava Segment Support

[10]
A shorter inactivity alert e.g 55mins instead of 2 hrs / make user customizable based on your lifestyle.

[johann.fuehrer]

@Woodster said:

[5]
Connect external sensors on-the-fly and re-connect if anything goes wrong

This alone would make me happy. HR belt died in long run yesterday and no change to make optical HR kick in except to stop activity and start a new one
Tried even the power mode change which usually works for powermeter issue whan stopping for coffee break (would be another point to be fixed asap)

[sky-runner]

@johann.fuehrer said:

HR belt died in long run yesterday and no change to make optical HR kick in except to stop activity and start a new one

There is a number of external HR sensors that use rechargeable batteries, so this happens more often than people think. I really like Coros armband HR sensor which is accurate, comfortable, and normally very reliable. But it has 38 hour battery life and from time to time I do run into this issue. There are chest sensors with rechargeable batteries too.

[johann.fuehrer]

@sky-runner That does not solve the problem that the watch is not able to switch. I might have put down my HR belt because it hurts or whatever. The watch had OHR enabled for this activity, so it should be able to kick in either automatically or manually. Both was not possible.

[sky-runner]

@Woodster said:

[9]
Built-in Strava Segment Support

This would be nice! Suunto does have S+ guide for handling Strava live segments but it is quite minimalistic. The thing that bothers me the most is that there is no way to tell which segment I am approaching and to choose from multiple segments that may start at the same place. The latter is actually quite common because many trail running segments start at trailheads but either have different lengths or diverge later.

Another thing that would be really nice to have is to see segments on the map for navigation. There are some segments that are complicated and difficult to follow, especially when we are talking about longer FKT like segments (or even actual FKTs). I think this would be much easier if segments implementation was native.

It is worth mentioning 3 things since we are talking about Strava segments.

1. Ability to navigate and follow a live Strava segment. Suunto is the only brand that allows this, perhaps because segments are implemented as S+ guide. With all other brands (Garmin, Coros, Polar), you can either follow a route or follow a segment, but not both at the same time. If segments become native, this should not be lost.

2. Ability to track downhill RUNNING segments. Only Garmin can do this. All other brands point to Strava saying that Strava blocks ALL downhill segments, but obviously that isn’t true because of the Garmin example.

3. The number of synced segments. I think because Suunto implements segments as an S+ guide is has a low limitation of only 20 segments. In practice this makes this feature quite unusable. After switching to Suunto from Garmin I have pretty much stopped using the live segments feature - that’s how basic and limiting it is.

If I was choosing between brands, for me live segment support would be a significant factor. But personally I don’t think Suunto would invest any efforts in this feature.

[sky-runner]

@johann.fuehrer said:

@sky-runner That does not solve the problem that the watch is not able to switch.

I didn’t say it it solves the problem. My comment was to emphasize that the problem is actually bigger than most people may realize.