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    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @D Schilderman
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      @D-Schilderman your issue will be fixed exactly. You talk about splits that are auto generated by Strava right ?

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        I’m not sure what your definition is for a split.
        I’m using the new suunto app and its paired to send my files to strava.

        My problem is that strava calculates my time per kilometer with a weird algorithm.
        For example:

        • I run 3 km at a 5min/km pace.
        • I manually pause for 15 mins to do some stretches/drills
        • I then unpause my run and commence my pace at 5min/km pace.

        When i finish my run and my file is exported to strava and it shows

        • 3x1km with 5min/km pace
        • 1km with 20min/km pace
        • rest of my run with 5min/pace.

        I have not used any interval or whatever setting so far.

        What I want is that strava only shows my time that I’ve run. I’ve used a garmin before and it never had this problem.

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        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @D Schilderman
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          @D-Schilderman yes that is what I refer to. Check the web of strava. Has splits and laps.
          Laps are currently 100% match to the watch but splits is your problem

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            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Yes, but most people who accept an app only SA, use only the app version of Strava. Is this something on the works to be fixed?
            *disclaimer I dont use app Strava but some of my friends do and I think they have only splits there and not laps

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
              last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

              @Yannis-Belouris on the mobile app there are laps and splits as well.

              Splits are autogenerated laps from Strava.
              Laps are the laps (auto,distance,interval etc) that the watch creates.

              What should we fix about that? That is how strava works. And I dont understand why one using SA has to only use the Strava mobile app. This makes no sense.

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                Ok, this way let me understand when i got some interval training and watches show me intervals of swimming and i didnt pushing any pause buttons during that, why Suunto App show me pace/min using idle time when i’m resting and not moving/swimming? I mean pool swim training, not open water when GPS positioning is operation.

                BUT when data trasferred to Strava everything OK and i found actual true pace.

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Yurgo
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                  @Yurgo Do you have the latest verion of the app? The pace should be fine there. Else please create a new thread so I can scope and help there

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                    Yurgo @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Strava export not correctly recording pauses:

                    @Yurgo Do you have the latest verion of the app? The pace should be fine there. Else please create a new thread so I can scope and help there

                    Just only updated. Latest beta is 4.2.2 right? I will do some swimming and revert with results.

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Yurgo
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                      @Yurgo you can check your prev activities

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                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Allow me to argue that it does.
                        When suunto forces people in an app only ecosystem, it paradoxical to point someone to a web version of an app.
                        Also, is does NOT display laps (the free version of strava app).
                        Also, I dont cate about strava myself but most users, I feel, will be perplexed.

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                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
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                          @Yannis-Belouris hey buddy please relax and please keep the scope here.

                          First of all I asked the user to check the web interface of that app as its more clear in the webversion of Strava the laps vs splits.

                          You had to comment that since Suunto does not offer a web platform I should not ask this from a customer, to use the web-based version of the app on his mobile or desktop?

                          What is the logic here? I am trying to help a customer and I am not allowed?

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                            Yurgo @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Strava export not correctly recording pauses:

                            @Yurgo you can check your prev activities

                            I suppose there are same results. Check it there:

                            http://www.movescount.com/ru/moves/move288146541
                            https://www.strava.com/activities/2395012418?utm_source=com.google.android.gm&utm_medium=referral
                            https://app.suunto.com/move/yurgo/5ce8fde5d85e39ca99d335d6

                            As you can see Strava has training time 36:48 min and overal time 44:12 with all stops/rest.

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Yurgo
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                              @Yurgo got it thanks! I ll update you on this but lets discuss this here, as this thread is not for swimming. (trying to keep the scope).

                              Short update this is under fix (swimming) and I do hope next week to be ok

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                                Yurgo @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Strava export not correctly recording pauses:

                                @Yurgo got it thanks! I ll update you on this but lets discuss this here, as this thread is not for swimming. (trying to keep the scope).

                                Short update this is under fix (swimming) and I do hope next week to be ok

                                Many thanks!!

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                                  A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                  First of all, I am very relaxed myself.
                                  I did not call you buddy or asked you to relax yourself.
                                  The rest of your logic or mine I fell should not be discussed any further.

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                                    Šón Čestr @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos , yep, I was also referring to the splits (and corresponding pace graph) that are auto-generated by Strava. I use the web version and see them here:

                                    a) On the overview page: “Splits” in the right-hand panel beside the map and pace graph in the bottommost panel

                                    b) Analysis → Workout Analysis → Bottom left panel when viewing “Splits” or “Smoothed” but not “Laps”

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                                      @Šón-Čestr clear! The fix is coming for that.

                                      And it is related to your nice finding of pauses.

                                      So just following up, we export also the data during the pause period and that makes strava count very strange split times.

                                      I am sure this fix will rollout next week as I said about swimming as well (that is a different fix though) if all goes well.

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                                        Šón Čestr @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos nice! You guys fixed this quickly! Thanks!

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                                          D Schilderman @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                          last edited by D Schilderman

                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                          Thanks for your reply. So I can expect the fix within a couple of weeks :).

                                          One more question. Does that fix also correct for “auto-pause” when standing still? Or only manual pause.

                                          Edit:
                                          To add… I just checked the details of the run that I originally was talking about.
                                          The Suunto App also shows 29 mins for the 4th km where I had my watch on pause… So do we get a fix for that AND strava?

                                          Kind regards.

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                                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @D Schilderman
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                                            @D-Schilderman the fix for the app (presumably android) I am not sure about next week.

                                            Can you elaborate on the autopause thingy about strava? The moving time vs elapsed time ?

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