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    Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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    • EgikaE Offline
      Egika Platinum Member @johann.fuehrer
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      @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

      @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

      It’s true.
      WHR consumes more energy because the LED’s use way more than BTLE.
      BTLE has an average current of ~0.05mA (depending largely on the chipset)
      The high rate LED switching easily uses 10x as much power…

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        johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Egika
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        @Egika said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

        @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

        @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

        It’s true.
        WHR consumes more energy because the LED’s use way more than BTLE.
        BTLE has an average current of ~0.05mA (depending largely on the chipset)
        The high rate LED switching easily uses 10x as much power…

        Thx for the info!

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          freeheeler @zhang965
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          @zhang965
          what is, by your experience, the battery life in best GPS mode?

          and another technical question: is it possible to get oxygen values with these LED’s or would it require a different sensor?

          living sideways

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            @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

            @zhang965 ---- no chance — still on Ambit2 — waiting for improvements in the App and Firmware before wasting money again …

            It’s a wise strategy, I think suunto number line will never get the same (feeling ) as ambit line.

            Personally I recommend you to get a second hand SSU if you don’t want wasting money, or garmin/polar stuff.

            The difference between ambit and suunto number line is huge, I think as long as you stay with ambit, you will get harder to understand a new generation watch

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              johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
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              @zhang965 I had an “SSU Titanium Customized” until last week and dropped it because of issues … I’m now waiting where to go and stay with the A2 Peak Sapphire

              And I had Also an S9 BARo & S9BARO Titanium which I also get rid of as long as I could get my money back. I’m not giving up, but I will not wait forever …

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                zhang965 @freeheeler
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                @TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                @zhang965
                what is, by your experience, the battery life in best GPS mode?

                and another technical question: is it possible to get oxygen values with these LED’s or would it require a different sensor?

                I never did a long time activity, my longest move was a 12km 48min run, so for me the battery is enough.

                It needs a different sensor for blood oxygen

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                  @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                  @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

                  It is easy enough to try because Suunto 9 shows estimated battery life on activity start screen.

                  If my memory is correct, with full charge in Performance mode S9B promises the following:

                  • With OHR - 25 hours
                  • With BT HR sensor - 30-31 hours
                  • With HR turned off - 33-34 hours
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                    zhang965 @johann.fuehrer
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                    @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                    @zhang965 I had an “SSU Titanium Customized” until last week and dropped it because of issues … I’m now waiting where to go and stay with the A2 Peak Sapphire

                    And I had Also an S9 BARo & S9BARO Titanium which I also get rid of as long as I could get my money back. I’m not giving up, but I will not wait forever …

                    i had almost complexe feeling about SSU, it was so awful in 360 degrees.

                    I was telling myself , when buying S9, there will be nothing awful as ssu, there will be nothing awful as ssu.

                    Until I opened s9’s package

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                      pilleus @zhang965
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                      @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                      Personally I recommend you to get a second hand SSU

                      +1

                      I just got a new one for 225 EUR (including heart belt).

                      But I think that my Ambit 3 is the best choice further on. 😎👍

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                        johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
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                        @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                        @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                        @zhang965 I had an “SSU Titanium Customized” until last week and dropped it because of issues … I’m now waiting where to go and stay with the A2 Peak Sapphire

                        And I had Also an S9 BARo & S9BARO Titanium which I also get rid of as long as I could get my money back. I’m not giving up, but I will not wait forever …

                        i had almost complexe feeling about SSU, it was so awful in 360 degrees.

                        I was telling myself , when buying S9, there will be nothing awful as ssu, there will be nothing awful as ssu.

                        Until I opened s9’s package

                        I’m not bounded to a brand, I’m using V800 and A2PS together, because I need only good pace/power and time/distance during my workouts. The rest is “candy”. And for GPS track quality and battery lifetime these two are still unbeaten (IMHO) for my needs …

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                          @silentvoyager said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                          With BT HR sensor - 30-31 hours

                          that would be perfect for my extended skitouring weekends 👌

                          living sideways

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                            freeheeler @zhang965
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                            @zhang965
                            why is ssu and s9 aweful?
                            do you like the a3ps design better?

                            living sideways

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                              zhang965 @freeheeler
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                              @TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                              @zhang965
                              why is ssu and s9 aweful?
                              do you like the a3ps design better?

                              A3ps is the best of ambit line, but it’s in past, as a famous suunto community manager said, ssu s9 are not ambit.

                              You cannot interpret ambit with s9’s logic, ambit3p is the best and s9 is the best as well- in different lines.

                              The distance between software and hardware makes ssu s9 awful.

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                                johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                                @TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                @zhang965
                                why is ssu and s9 aweful?
                                do you like the a3ps design better?

                                he said awful - not ugly!

                                😉 the design of the A3 & A2 is — ähm, unconventional (yes, they are ugly) but the SSU and S9 are also not eye candy. But this is different topic …

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                                  freeheeler @johann.fuehrer
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                                  @johann-fuehrer
                                  I actually like the a3ps design with the brushed silverish ring and buttons and the external gps chip! and it is hopelessly comfy, too 🙂

                                  living sideways

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                                  • zhang965Z Offline
                                    zhang965
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                                    Nowadays the companies release a unfinished product is a common strategy, ssu’s development was a mess, three years later I’m still feeling ssu is not completed.

                                    And s9, I mean that the moment you know it will be hardly completed again,

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                                      freeheeler @zhang965
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                                      @zhang965
                                      for distance, alti and some more issues I would still hasitate to upgrade to S9… but I think this could be an option once the dust has settled 👍

                                      living sideways

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                                      • freeheelerF Offline
                                        freeheeler @zhang965
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                                        @zhang965
                                        product is finish with improvements and immediately goes phase out 🤔
                                        strange strategy…
                                        but I think with my phone it’s different. I choose Sony Xperia as they seem to be deeply tested and have very… veeery few bugs 👌
                                        …and the frequency of releasing phones is higher than watches. but then Sony is much bigger and amount of sold phones hundret times more…

                                        living sideways

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                                          johann.fuehrer Bronze Member
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                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos whom to talk to to close this thread? Statler and Waldorf occupied this as well so it makes no more sense for others to keep it alive …

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                                            zhang965 @johann.fuehrer
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                                            @johann-fuehrer you can delete it by your own

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