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    johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
    last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 01:17

    @Kyle-Vander-Ploeg-Wright said in Suunto Spartan Sport Really high calories burned:

    I just changed it to public

    That did it, I see your workout now in Movescount. Which does not mean I can answer your question 😉

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      johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @johann.fuehrer
      last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 01:21

      @johann-fuehrer I’ve checked this with some calorie calculators and I agree with you: this values are way to high, it should be somewhere in the 450 range (with some spread of course)

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        Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
        last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 01:29

        Screenshot_20190920-182459_Connect.jpg
        Here’s a screenshot of an older workout I did with my Garmin watch last year. This run was UPHILL and my average HR was over 160. How many calories burned? 551.

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          Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
          last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 01:31

          Screenshot_20190920-182633_Samsung Health.jpg Screenshot_20190920-182652_Samsung Health.jpg

          Here from a very similar run. The same route, only I ran harder. Calories burned is 434.

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            Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
            last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 01:39

            Sorry the photos are so big

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              johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
              last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 01:47

              @Kyle-Vander-Ploeg-Wright said in Suunto Spartan Sport Really high calories burned:

              Sorry the photos are so big

              No Problem (I think). These runs look ok, especially the first were you also had some altitude to manage. Maybe, if the other guys did wake up here in Europe, you’ll get some better answers 😉

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                A Former User
                last edited by A Former User 21 Sept 2019, 04:16

                Is your rest HR setup correctly in the watch?

                Also, are you HR zones and max HR are setup in the watch in addition to Movescount? I am pretty sure Spartan and newer Suunto watches don’t use HR zones from Movescount. Instead HR zones must be setup directly on the watch (which I personally think was a bad design decision).

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                  Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
                  last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 06:10

                  My rest HR is set to 60, which I feel is correct unless there’s a way to test it lol.

                  I also set everything up on the watch before connecting it to the new Suunto app. I later connected it to movecount. So all the personal information and HR zones are all set up through the watch

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                    suzzlo Moderator
                    last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 06:13

                    Another chech.:

                    As far as you may know, there are default and advanced zones for running and cycling. So in these type of activities, advanced zones are used…

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                      Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
                      last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 06:40

                      I use the advanced zone to set up the specified HR zones I’ve posted above for all running sports. My normal HR zones for sports other than running are more like this:
                      Zone 5: 90-100%
                      4: 80-90%
                      3: 70-80%
                      2: 60-70%
                      1: 60% and below.

                      But so far I’m only using this watch for running. So it would only use the HR zones that I specified above.

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                        A Former User
                        last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 07:29

                        Sorry, don’t know what might be the issue. I don’t usually pay attention to Calories but I checked my last activity and the calorie estimate seems to be reasonable - 475 Cal for a 4.2 mile run with some elevation gain.

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                          suzzlo Moderator @Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
                          last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 10:21

                          @Kyle-Vander-Ploeg-Wright @silentvoyager

                          Today => 1:15h 13.5k 158HR(avg) -> 1200 calories (should be 900 -1000)

                          Same route (should be 600-700)
                          2019/09/13 => 0:52h 9k 158HR(avg) -> 830 cal
                          2019/08/20 => 0:49h 9k 149HR(avg) -> 694 cal
                          2019/07/22 => 0:52h 9k 149HR(avg) -> 755 cal
                          2019/07/17 => 0:47h 9k 158HR(avg) -> 761 cal
                          2019/06/15 => 0:50h 9k 168HR(avg) -> 917 cal

                          Perhaps I’m in the same case (not so big difference) and didn’t realize 😞

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                            suzzlo Moderator
                            last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 10:24

                            BTW, weather here in north of Spain is a bit crazy and training in different hours… it’s difficult (for me) to mantain avg HR for same route

                            😞

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                              zhang965 @Guest
                              last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 10:48

                              @silentvoyager said in Suunto Spartan Sport Really high calories burned:

                              Sorry, don’t know what might be the issue. I don’t usually pay attention to Calories but I checked my last activity and the calorie estimate seems to be reasonable - 475 Cal for a 4.2 mile run with some elevation gain.

                              475 for 4.2 mile?
                              I’ve got 689 for 7.5 mile

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                                Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
                                last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 17:15

                                I just didn’t know if other people were having the same problem. Is Suunto even working on fixing this problem? Or is this just normal and I have to deal with it (I just divide the calories burned in half and that gives me a more reasonable number)

                                I agree with @zhang965, @silentvoyager those numbers don’t seem right. Like it’s the opposite of what I’m going through. That’s about my average calories burned for a 2-3 mile run, but my watch would show me that I burned 800+ calories for that. That’s really weird.

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                  last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 18:30

                                  Hi perhaps this helps.

                                  The workout summary contains the BMR calories.

                                  So for example my bmr is 1700kcal so 1 hour is ~70kcal.

                                  Any workout at any intensity i would do for 1h i would have 70kcal included.

                                  So from the other app data you should remove the BMR

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
                                    last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 18:31

                                    @Kyle-Vander-Ploeg-Wright no there is no problem at all reported in this case. Imo i have less calories from what polar gives me or strava.

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                                      Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 21:40

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos you might be right. I’ll need to look into that

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                                        A Former User @zhang965
                                        last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 21:52

                                        @zhang965 said in Suunto Spartan Sport Really high calories burned:

                                        475 for 4.2 mile?
                                        I’ve got 689 for 7.5 mile

                                        Calorie burn depends on weight, pace, surface, weather, elevation gain etc.

                                        That was a trail run with about 360 ft (110 meters) of elevation gain which required extra energy, plus you might be lighter than me.

                                        But whatever, I don’t actually care.

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                                          suzzlo Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                          last edited by suzzlo 22 Sept 2019, 09:40

                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto Spartan Sport Really high calories burned:

                                          The workout summary contains the BMR calories.

                                          This could explain that:

                                          Workout calories:
                                          IMG_20190922_113519.jpg

                                          Day active calories:
                                          IMG_20190922_113550.jpg

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