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    Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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    • freeheelerF Offline
      freeheeler @Fenr1r
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      @Fenr1r šŸ™ˆ

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        here’s another comparison of S9B vs A3PS with same settings. This time the chest strap was connected to A3PS and OHR was used with S9B to check for differences between the two types of HR measuring.
        At home I’ve changed manually by purpose the altitude to the wrong value of around 650m in both watches to check what they do with FusedAlti.
        S9B got a start alti of 481m, A3PS has 472m. The total ascent of S9B was 146m and A3PS 159m.
        Swiss Topo Map shows at my start point 472m.
        The alti profile of both recordings look similar, and the offset from start is constant throughout the activities. I don’t know why S9B shows a more nervous graph but still has less meters total ascent. Does it measure the alti more often?! A3PS looks much ā€œsmootherā€.
        Distance S9B: 7.74km, A3PS: 7.79m.
        Between km 3 and 4 I purposely went once around a big tree… S9B did not recognize this circle, A3PS did.

        The HR graph in my opinion is differing, too. But for me it’s good enough. In general I will use the strap anyway, because of less battery consumption and better measuring precision. I noticed that S9B was often a bit higher and took longer time to show lower HR values when the trail changed from up to downhill.

        It’s interesting to see these differences… BUT I must say that I would believe both.
        The start altitude of A3PS nailed it… could be coincidence or pure precision šŸ‘

        https://quantified-self.io/user/jBm0qOhihUMykVYD8HBJMshQrJc2/event/A60PtzTC8ofZ20ZyQpqZ

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        • Fenr1rF Offline
          Fenr1r @freeheeler
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          @TELE-HO The tree was a nice touch. Interesting.

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            @TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

            I don’t know why S9B shows a more nervous graph but still has less meters total ascent

            Thanks! That is a good comparison!

            One reason why S9B may have a more nervous graph is that it logs elevation every 1 second vs 10 seconds for A3P. But that still doesn’t help with more accurate total ascent.

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              @silentvoyager said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

              very 1 second vs 10 seconds

              I suspected this but I’ve had something in memory that it is not adjustable anymore because 10sec would make more sense… but I obviously recall this wrong…

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              • cosme.costaC Offline
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                After one week with the S9 baro, and comparing it to the SSU:

                Pros:

                • Battery life/Battery modes
                • OHR (for who uses it)
                • Better tracks
                • Firstbeat stuff (for who uses it)
                • Nicer (personal opinion)
                • Buttons (I feel them more robust)

                Cons:

                • GPS lock is extremely slow comparing to the SSU, even with the AGPS updated. I mean, with the SSU and an updated AGPS the lock is done in less than 10 seconds, with the S9 I have needed 30 seconds, and today more than 5 minutes with the AGPS up to date. All this, checking in the same spot. I need more activities to see if its the normal behavior.
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                • isaziI Offline
                  isazi Moderator @cosme.costa
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                  @cosmecosta doesn’t seem normal, mine gets the green GPS light in seconds, unless I’m moving to a complete different location.

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                  • sartoricS Offline
                    sartoric Moderator @cosme.costa
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                    @cosmecosta
                    Afair the GPS lock is slower the firs times

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                    • cosme.costaC Offline
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                      @isazi and @sartoric Well, maybe is something punctual, today when I finished my run I tried again run and got the green arrow within the normal time (as I use to have with the SSU). As I said, I need more activities to have it more clear, but my feeling, after one week, is that it is slower.

                      I’m not worried, at least yet.

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                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                        after each reboot or FW update the GPS will take more time to lock.

                        Indeed it can up to 3mins imo but all the rest is less 10s

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                          I love my Suunto 9 baro. Have owned both T6, Ambit and Ambit 3 peak. But after a few days of use and some clarifying questions here on the forum, the Suunto 9 baro and the new Suunto app have set a new standard.
                          The only thing I now want is an overview of time spent in different HR zones for the week, month and year, in the appšŸ™šŸ™

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                          • Saketo NemoS Offline
                            Saketo Nemo Moderator
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                            nice to read positive feedback from old users, like me. Even for me suunto 9 and suunto app are a great match and can only improve. We look forward to the update with the MC style views and the one where we’ll be able to manage waypoints and POIs

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                            • freeheelerF Offline
                              freeheeler @Saketo Nemo
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                              @Saketo-Nemo
                              yes, S9B is almost perfect, while SA has a bit more room for improvement, but for me QS compensates the lack of SA (and SA web end).

                              Most of you might have seen that I’ve started a summary list of further FW improvements for S9B… here’s the link, just in case you’re interested or want to add something

                              https://forum.suunto.com/topic/3473/future-s9-firmware-wishlist-summary

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                                  azeanic
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                                  The first time after the FW update, it took a long time. But subsequently, I find the GPS locks much quicker than pre-FW update.

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                                  • Saketo NemoS Offline
                                    Saketo Nemo Moderator @azeanic
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                                    @azeanic
                                    the same for me and, I think, the same for all. fw update note says it šŸ˜‰

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                                    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @cosme.costa
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                                      @cosmecosta Something wrong there, mine locks faster than my A3P used to, within 1 to 3 sec.

                                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                      • cosme.costaC Offline
                                        cosme.costa
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                                        Thanks to all. I did some test this afternoon and the GPS lock was within 10 or less seconds. I guess I had something wrong with the previous AGPS, and after today’s run it was fixed.

                                        Again, thanks to all!!

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                                        • freeheelerF Offline
                                          freeheeler @Brad_Olwin
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                                          @Brad_Olwin
                                          I think your watch is used to being connected rather than disconnected šŸ˜‰
                                          I did not count seconds with my watch but it is pretty fast.

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                                          • freeheelerF Offline
                                            freeheeler
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                                            here’s another comparison…
                                            I personally think FusedAlti has improved. I haven’t adjusted either watch before the run. Both watches for best comparison in performance mode, GPS only.
                                            I’ve lost satellite connection on S9B sometimes between km 3 and 4.
                                            The pace on S9B sometimes was way off reality as I see in the graph.
                                            The total ascent on S9B is more than on A3PS, I did not expect this as it was once closer. But there are so many things effecting this…

                                            What disappoints me is the route planner of SA. The precision of total ascent was to the meter in the last test I did. This time it’s significantly off.

                                            https://quantified-self.io/user/jBm0qOhihUMykVYD8HBJMshQrJc2/event/nP1QcfFBG1dMSjv0WwTn

                                            Screenshot_20191207-092739.png

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