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    Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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      BKtoo Bronze Member @freeheeler
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        azeanic
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        The first time after the FW update, it took a long time. But subsequently, I find the GPS locks much quicker than pre-FW update.

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          Saketo Nemo Moderator @azeanic
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          @azeanic
          the same for me and, I think, the same for all. fw update note says it šŸ˜‰

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            Brad_Olwin Moderator @cosme.costa
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            @cosmecosta Something wrong there, mine locks faster than my A3P used to, within 1 to 3 sec.

            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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              cosme.costa
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              Thanks to all. I did some test this afternoon and the GPS lock was within 10 or less seconds. I guess I had something wrong with the previous AGPS, and after today’s run it was fixed.

              Again, thanks to all!!

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                freeheeler @Brad_Olwin
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                @Brad_Olwin
                I think your watch is used to being connected rather than disconnected šŸ˜‰
                I did not count seconds with my watch but it is pretty fast.

                living sideways

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                  freeheeler
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                  here’s another comparison…
                  I personally think FusedAlti has improved. I haven’t adjusted either watch before the run. Both watches for best comparison in performance mode, GPS only.
                  I’ve lost satellite connection on S9B sometimes between km 3 and 4.
                  The pace on S9B sometimes was way off reality as I see in the graph.
                  The total ascent on S9B is more than on A3PS, I did not expect this as it was once closer. But there are so many things effecting this…

                  What disappoints me is the route planner of SA. The precision of total ascent was to the meter in the last test I did. This time it’s significantly off.

                  https://quantified-self.io/user/jBm0qOhihUMykVYD8HBJMshQrJc2/event/nP1QcfFBG1dMSjv0WwTn

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                  living sideways

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                    Rob33 Bronze Member
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                    New user of the 9 baro (I come from SSU).
                    adjustment gps performance, output enduranceavec constant pace
                    First impressions:
                    -trace gps OK but not extraordinary. better with gps + galileo?
                    -distance OK
                    -altitude: calibration done before leaving (10 min) but erratic altitude, 55 m instead of 44
                    -FC HR: disappointment! (I’m used to the cardio polar belt) start indications 100% FCM, rhythm ebdurance: large variations sudden enough +/- 10 pulsations
                    I read that it was necessary to put the watch high enough on the handle but it tends to slip. Also that the pils could pose problems. What are you doing? and do you have solutions / habits to improve use?

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                      freeheeler @Rob33
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                      @Rob33
                      OHR (I guess? optical HR on the wrist?) is a difficult topic.
                      I would use a chest strap if you care about precise HR data. It even saves some more battery šŸ‘

                      @all
                      I went paddling with my surfboard in the lake today and saw that my total ascent is 33m… I must say that there were no waves and the lake does not have sooo many hills… what did I do wrong in the sport mode setup that the activity ā€œstandup paddlingā€ counts alti? (I use this for SUP and surfpaddling on the lake)

                      living sideways

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                        isazi Moderator @freeheeler
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                        @TELE-HO I have ascent and descent kayaking in lakes with both Garmin and Suunto watches. Could be the weather, or maybe you had calibration with Fusedalti during the activity. Can we see the alti profile?

                        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                          A Former User @isazi
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                          @isazi said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                          @TELE-HO I have ascent and descent kayaking in lakes with both Garmin and Suunto watches. Could be the weather, or maybe you had calibration with Fusedalti during the activity. Can we see the alti profile?

                          By why did Suunto eliminate barometer profiles? In Movescount any water sport would be setup with Baro profile, and that means that pressure changes would be treated as pressure changes and not as altitude. Also FusedAlti shouldn’t affect total ascent for any indoor or water sport. Suunto keeps simplifying things, but these simplifications don’t always make sense.

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                            isazi Moderator @Guest
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                            @silentvoyager but water sports may need the altimeter, e.g. for white water or simply river kayaking.

                            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                              freeheeler @isazi
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                              @isazi
                              but paddling by hand changes pressure, hence alti by submerging the sensor with any stroke…
                              I once setup my A3PS incorrect and dud some fantastic 15’000m ascent on the lake šŸ˜‚
                              this could now be possible wirh S9B by default abd obviously no chance to change?

                              https://beta.quantified-self.io/user/jBm0qOhihUMykVYD8HBJMshQrJc2/event/3cPQA91MbTn2CvY9mwJSDwhqum5pS4RDjUpcM6Nw7kBtCDi

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                                surfboomerang @freeheeler
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                                @TELE-HO
                                This is exactly what is missing in the new watch line from Suunto: Choices.

                                Different people, different sports, different needs.
                                Everyone has its own set of datafields and setting for their sports. The only thing Suunto has to do is to give me the choice of selecting a certain settings and data field so I can combine them to a setup that is useful to me. Another person could have a whole other setup for the same sport because it is useful to him.

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                                OnePlus Nord 4

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                                  isazi Moderator @freeheeler
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                                  @TELE-HO I try to not get my hands under the water when paddling šŸ™‚

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                                    isazi Moderator @freeheeler
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                                    @TELE-HO BTW those almost instantaneous 10 meters drops (or raises) are strange. And I just mean strange to be happening in the real world on a lake šŸ™‚

                                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                    Blog: isazi's home

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                                      freeheeler @isazi
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                                      @isazi
                                      my assumption is that the sensor measures pressure change and FusedAlti says: no not possible and tries to correct it… but I’m not sure if FusedAlti is reacting that quick?

                                      I’m 100% with @surfboomerang the watch must be more customizable… also a gym workout with ascent is not really what I want to see… yes I do jump lunges… but not that high…

                                      living sideways

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                                        isazi Moderator @freeheeler
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                                        @TELE-HO for the gym workout, just make your own activity and remove all the fields related to speed and movement. It’ll work.

                                        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                        Blog: isazi's home

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                                          freeheeler @isazi
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                                          @isazi
                                          you mean custom activity?
                                          I don’t record gym workouts frequently… on Sunday I did… but more because of testing the OHR once again.

                                          Let’s hope Suunto gives us more customization on the sport modes. I don’t go paddling in the lake so often… and for surfing (let’s call it surfing when I try to catch some green and immediately end up in the washingmachine šŸ˜‰ ) I never use my watch. It is a minor issue for me… but I don’t know how swimmers handle this? Do they get the result:
                                          1’000m distance swim while 500m swim-ascent?

                                          living sideways

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                                            isazi Moderator @freeheeler
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                                            @TELE-HO yeah meant custom activity. Would be really nice being able to customize also default activities, but custom activities are already a very good workaround (they’re more than a workaround, but a workaround for this specific issue).

                                            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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