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      clemens.renzl Bronze Member @Prenj
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      @Prenj …😂🙈

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        Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
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        @Brad_Olwin i’m pretty sure that amoled screens or equivalent at some point will substitute actual major screens. But with another ultra-low CPUs and with another batteries. This is the begining. My concern with S7 sucess is price. I really don’ t know if a casual sport guy or girl will buy this watch with so many choices in market.

        SR
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          jsuarez Bronze Member @Prenj
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          @Prenj That’s really really bad…

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          • freeheelerF Offline
            freeheeler @Prenj
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            @Prenj
            but this one is nice and I want that in S9B

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              isazi Moderator @Prenj
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              @Prenj if firmware it’s not final, they will optimize stuff in the next month.

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                Prenj @isazi
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                @isazi said in Suunto 7:

                @Prenj if firmware it’s not final, they will optimize stuff in the next month.

                True. But still, as with any wear os device, you will probably need to charge it every day, maybe even more frequently. Until better batteries get developed this kind of devices will only be toys. At least for me. What good is HR sensor and it’s ability to monitor your sleep if you need to take off your watch for recharging every night?

                I wish suunto focused it’s efforts more on developing some unique features that really distinguish them from others. There are a lot of similar devices on the market already. Mostly much cheaper.

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                  Egika Platinum Member
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                  one other question:
                  will be Suunto WearOS watch app be made available for other WearOS smart watches?

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                    jw cou Silver Members @Guest
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                    @NickK said in Suunto 7:

                    Run a few miles in a park, hike around a lake, stretch at a yoga studio, get your pumpkin latte while listening to a podcast. Is it for you? Probably no. Apparently it’s not for me either. Sucks to be us, pal ☹

                    Don’t you think there’s a middle ground between athletes / pro / elite / very wild runners, whatever you want to call them and the Sunday runner you describe? This middle ground is to me the target audience of the S7.

                    I don’t think I can be categorized as running a few miles in the park before my latte and yoga session. I do 20-30km trails every 2 weeks, that is 3-4 hours run, run > 50km once a year and go hiking > 1500m+ a couple of times a year. So a 10 hours battery life per activity is enough for me, and I would not encounter extreme conditions but need something robust. As a training I do long flat run (2 or 3 hours) and would definitely welcome some music then.
                    I don’t seriously train, so intervals / planning are not for me. I don’t need very robust navigation, when I go for trails it’s on marked path so maps “only” are very good for that --> that’s what the S7 is for in my opinion, and that’s why the “Sunday runner” will go to a cheaper watch (unless they are Suunto addicts).

                    It’s alos very good for Sunnto to expand their strategic target consumers, as you don;t want to rely on only one crowd (= the hardcore guys). Of course the risk is loosing a bit the focus for one or the other group.

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                      sartoric Moderator @jw cou
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                      @jean-william-cousin said in Suunto 7:

                      Of course the risk is loosing a bit the focus for one or the other group.

                      Only if this “expansion” doesn’t give you more resources (da money 😄 ) to work with

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                        Maryn Silver Members
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                        I wonder how long the battery will last if the watch is charged every day or every day and a half. Very quickly its performance will decrease. I think that 300 cycles will come out under one year and then it will only get worse.

                        Correct me if I’m wrong.

                        PS. I generally like this watch.

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                          Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
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                          @Brad_Olwin Any tester with .fit or .json with NAV+BDS tracks?

                          SR
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                            Luís Pinto Platinum Member @jw cou
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                            @jean-william-cousin said in Suunto 7:

                            Don’t you think there’s a middle ground between athletes / pro / elite / very wild runners, whatever you want to call them and the Sunday runner you describe? This middle ground is to me the target audience of the S7.
                            I don’t think I can be categorized as running a few miles in the park before my latte and yoga session. I do 20-30km trails every 2 weeks, that is 3-4 hours run, run > 50km once a year and go hiking > 1500m+ a couple of times a year. So a 10 hours battery life per activity is enough for me, and I would not encounter extreme conditions but need something robust. As a training I do long flat run (2 or 3 hours) and would definitely welcome some music then.
                            I don’t seriously train, so intervals / planning are not for me. I don’t need very robust navigation, when I go for trails it’s on marked path so maps “only” are very good for that --> that’s what the S7 is for in my opinion, and that’s why the “Sunday runner” will go to a cheaper watch (unless they are Suunto addicts).
                            It’s alos very good for Sunnto to expand their strategic target consumers, as you don;t want to rely on only one crowd (= the hardcore guys). Of course the risk is loosing a bit the focus for one or the other group.

                            I understand all you said and agree with most. Suunto have to expand market as Garmin does. And offer different products for different targets of people. S7 is an attempt to do that.

                            SR
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                              Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Prenj
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                              @Prenj said in Suunto 7:

                              True. But still, as with any wear os device, you will probably need to charge it every day, maybe even more frequently. Until better batteries get developed this kind of devices will only be toys. At least for me. What good is HR sensor and it’s ability to monitor your sleep if you need to take off your watch for recharging every night?
                              I wish suunto focused it’s efforts more on developing some unique features that really distinguish them from others. There are a lot of similar devices on the market already. Mostly much cheaper.

                              Is not just battery. Maybe graphene material will make a huge step. And also cpu consumption.
                              https://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-graphene-battery-tech-super-fast-charging-2019-8

                              SR
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                                freeheeler @Luís Pinto
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                                @Luís-Pinto
                                Arc’teryx came up with the super ugly Veilance series… even these jackets remind me of the movie Equilibrium I would never wear anything from the Veilance series… but I don’t have to, everyone can choose what they like 👍

                                The disappointment here is that there are running new developments while older products could still need some attention.
                                I don’t know if the discussion about a Suunto Web is off the table with the S7 completely?

                                living sideways

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                                  pilleus
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                                  A short hands-on …

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                                    Luís Pinto Platinum Member @freeheeler
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                                    @TELE-HO Unfortunately i think web will be past. Mobile is expandind very fast. There are rumors that Garmin and Polar will make that move. Garmin connect app is very complete in some way much better than web. Coros and Huami (Xiaomi) just have app.

                                    But there is hope with Dimitrios’s Quantified. I propose a new name @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos QS Sports!

                                    SR
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                                      freeheeler @Luís Pinto
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                                      @Luís-Pinto
                                      I think you are right. It’s good that we have Dimitrios with his nice QS project 👍

                                      living sideways

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                                        Prenj @Luís Pinto
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                                        @Luís-Pinto
                                        Yes. The point is that this particular watch model will not utilize this technology and I’m afraid that taking current battery life limitation in consideration will not be a success story when it hits the market.

                                        So if Suunto management decided to make this watch to gain larger users base and make good profit out of it this could easily turn out to be a fail.

                                        But if they did it because they want to gain advantage in this platform on time, expecting some huge advancement in power efficiency that industry will offer soon, that could be a success. But I’m not that optimistic about some big changes in power efficiency as we see how things go with mobile phones. After so many years we still have devices that mostly squeeze one day of use out of battery at most.

                                        Also keep in mind that Suunto is notoriously understaffed in IT department, so balancing between all these platforms could be a big challenge for them.

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                                          Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Prenj
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                                          @Prenj said in Suunto 7:

                                          Yes. The point is that this particular watch model will not utilize this technology and I’m afraid that taking current battery life limitation in consideration will not be a success story when it hits the market.
                                          So if Suunto management decided to make this watch to gain larger users base and make good profit out of it this could easily turn out to be a fail.
                                          But if they did it because they want to gain advantage in this platform on time, expecting some huge advancement in power efficiency that industry will offer soon, that could be a success. But I’m not that optimistic about some big changes in power efficiency as we see how things go with mobile phones. After so many years we still have devices that mostly squeeze one day of use out of battery at most.
                                          Also keep in mind that Suunto is notoriously understaffed in IT department, so balancing between all these platforms could be a big challenge for them

                                          You’re right. Smartphones proof that battery issues it’s a challenge not solved. Even screen scratch is not solved. Today we have Gorilla 5 in screens and the scratchs are more and more. At some point Apple tried “synthetic sapphire” but it was a abandoned project. Or the publicity is cheating us or smartphones brands don’t tell the true. the thing is G3 is not better than G5 in real life.

                                          About Suunto’s TI i still think that is short team. But they’re searching collaboration in so many areas: with Sony, Valencell, Google, Strava, Firstbeat, and so on.

                                          SR
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                                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Prenj
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                                            @Prenj said in Suunto 7:

                                            Not impressed at all…
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                                            A bit to . butt in here. The first day the watch will update all apps etc + system updates. I am surprised that he could even go for a run

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