Dodgy elevation on Spartan Sport WHR

RiphRaph

@isazi Where are you seeing those comparisons? Can you post links?

RiphRaph

@TELE-HO I couldn’t care less about oxygen saturation, but the F6X Pro claims to measure your rehydration needs (and an acquaintance who owns one and weighs himself before and after exercise to track his hydration status says it’s pretty accurate). Additionally:

Suunto makes you customise your data screens on the web or in the app; Garmin lets you do it on the watch;
The more I use the touchscreen, the more it annoys me; F6X Pro doesn’t have one;
Spartan has no option for displaying clock time during a run unless you hit pause first (WTH??); F6X Pro does (according to an acquaintance who owns one;
Spartan offers VERY limited options for customising interval screens & no five-field option. Three fields isn’t enough and the font on the seven-field display is too small, because:
My middle-aged eyes are having an increasingly hard time making out the Spartan’s display on the run. I’ve seen my acquaintance’s F6X and the display does look a lot easier to make out.

So all of that tends to nudge me away from Suunto when looking for a barometer. For the moment, anyway.

jsr184

@RiphRaph actually, you can see the clock time during run if you customize the run activity. I did that for all activities I track because it was annoying to have to pause just to see the time.

RiphRaph

@jsr184 Are you using Suunto app? I’m still using Movescount because I don’t want to lock myself out before they actually kill the site, and I can’t see a way to add clock time there.

ETA: Huh. Just checked again and the option is there. That’s interesting; I’ve never seen it before!

jsr184

@RiphRaph yes, I switched to Suunto app (not willingly but when I used custom sports feature in the app it unlinked my watch).

RiphRaph

@jsr184 This is why I’m super-careful not to touch the custom sport modes and routes in Suunto App. I do use it on my phone because to give it its due, it’s much better than Movescount App was (though nowhere near good enough to replace a web interface; nothing on a phone screen could do that).

As far as I know, you can regain access to Movescount if you factory reset your watch.

sartoric

@RiphRaph said in Dodgy elevation on Spartan Sport WHR:

Spartan has no option for displaying clock time during a run unless you hit pause first (WTH??); F6X Pro does (according to an acquaintance who owns one;

well, in fact if you double tap the screen you get it
and , ~~should be~~ it’s available on bottom button long-press too

isazi

@TELE-HO oxygen saturation on the F6 is better than my finger reader for what I have seen, but if you keep it enabled it drains battery like there’s no tomorrow. So everyone disables it.

isazi

@RiphRaph I can’t without showing the world where I live, and having had stalkers in the past I’ll avoid that. But if I can get some comparisons on a trip (let’s say next week or at the end of the month) I will.

RiphRaph

@sartoric …Wow.

Didn’t know that. It isn’t in the manual, apparently, which still says:

“While recording an exercise:
Upper button
• press to pause or resume recording
• keep pressed to change activity
Middle button
• press to change displays
• keep pressed to open in-context options menu
Lower button
• press to mark a lap
• keep pressed to lock and unlock buttons”

RiphRaph

@isazi Fully understand. It wasn’t clear to me that you were talking about comparisons you’d performed yourself!

freeheeler

@isazi said in Dodgy elevation on Spartan Sport WHR:

it drains battery like there’s no tomorrow. So everyone disables it.

I would just switch it one when I feel bad, just to check…
but I’d rather buy a finger sensor for few euros than buying a 5x plus or 6x or whatever

sartoric

@RiphRaph
Yep, in fact it is a (pre) lock screen

RiphRaph

@sartoric Meaning what, exactly?

sartoric

@RiphRaph
That you can lock the screen from that view

RiphRaph

@sartoric By doing what once you’re in that view? The manual doesn’t seem to mention any of this in detail!

sartoric

@RiphRaph
Ehm… Don’t you have a Spartan?

In that view there is the option “lock”

isazi

@TELE-HO just got, for the first time, your described effect! Today I did a 13k walk and because of the storm that is over western europe I wore a puffy jacket, and my watch was under the jacket. Got a very good GPS+Galileo track, but elevation gain of over 230 meters, and in Amsterdam that is quite unrealistic. Probably a factor 10 off. And very spiky like you describe.

freeheeler

@isazi
there are some activities for me where wrist motion and watch position cause spiky and wrong alti recording… for me as a design engineer the sensor is not at the best possible location. design should follow function.
since I don’t use OHR I generally wear my S9B looser around the wrist, this helps to avoid spikes. a longsleeve that goes underneath the watch body helps, too… but that’s nothing for summer month or gym workouts…

I hope Suunto considers this for a potential S9B successor

and thanks for your confirmation, for me it proofs that I am not dreaming or hunting ghosts

Shrek3k

@RiphRaph said in Elevation Gain:

This post may answer your question:

https://forum.suunto.com/topic/3886/dodgy-elevation-on-spartan-sport-whr/5

If you have a non-baro model and your route is only mildly hilly, that 7m threshold may mean your elevation data bears little resemblance to reality.

This seems to be the best explanation.
Nevertheless it is rather disappointing, that the elevation is not calculated (at least estmated) in the app, because it seems that the watch - although not counting elevation less than 7m - is nevertheless registering the elevation: in the app the ‘elevation-graph’ is displayed as correct as it is possible with GPS-only.
I would like to have a ‘calculated’ elevation (marked as this value), based on the elevation shown in the graph, if possible and available supported by the elevation according to the map / track.