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    • jsr184J Offline
      jsr184 Bronze Member @RiphRaph
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      @RiphRaph actually, you can see the clock time during run if you customize the run activity. I did that for all activities I track because it was annoying to have to pause just to see the time.

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        RiphRaph Bronze Member @jsr184
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        @jsr184 Are you using Suunto app? I’m still using Movescount because I don’t want to lock myself out before they actually kill the site, and I can’t see a way to add clock time there.

        ETA: Huh. Just checked again and the option is there. That’s interesting; I’ve never seen it before!

        Formerly Spartan Sport WHR, happy Coros Vertix user since Sept. 2020

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          jsr184 Bronze Member @RiphRaph
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          @RiphRaph yes, I switched to Suunto app (not willingly but when I used custom sports feature in the app it unlinked my watch).

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            RiphRaph Bronze Member @jsr184
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            @jsr184 This is why I’m super-careful not to touch the custom sport modes and routes in Suunto App. I do use it on my phone because to give it its due, it’s much better than Movescount App was (though nowhere near good enough to replace a web interface; nothing on a phone screen could do that).

            As far as I know, you can regain access to Movescount if you factory reset your watch.

            Formerly Spartan Sport WHR, happy Coros Vertix user since Sept. 2020

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              sartoric Moderator @RiphRaph
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              @RiphRaph said in Dodgy elevation on Spartan Sport WHR:

              Spartan has no option for displaying clock time during a run unless you hit pause first (WTH??); F6X Pro does (according to an acquaintance who owns one;

              well, in fact if you double tap the screen you get it
              and , should be it’s available on bottom button long-press too

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                isazi Moderator @freeheeler
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                @TELE-HO oxygen saturation on the F6 is better than my finger reader for what I have seen, but if you keep it enabled it drains battery like there’s no tomorrow. So everyone disables it.

                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                  isazi Moderator @RiphRaph
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                  @RiphRaph I can’t without showing the world where I live, and having had stalkers in the past I’ll avoid that. But if I can get some comparisons on a trip (let’s say next week or at the end of the month) I will.

                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                    RiphRaph Bronze Member @sartoric
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                    @sartoric …Wow.

                    Didn’t know that. It isn’t in the manual, apparently, which still says:

                    “While recording an exercise:
                    Upper button
                    • press to pause or resume recording
                    • keep pressed to change activity
                    Middle button
                    • press to change displays
                    • keep pressed to open in-context options menu
                    Lower button
                    • press to mark a lap
                    • keep pressed to lock and unlock buttons”

                    Formerly Spartan Sport WHR, happy Coros Vertix user since Sept. 2020

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                      RiphRaph Bronze Member @isazi
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                      @isazi Fully understand. It wasn’t clear to me that you were talking about comparisons you’d performed yourself!

                      Formerly Spartan Sport WHR, happy Coros Vertix user since Sept. 2020

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                        freeheeler @isazi
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                        @isazi said in Dodgy elevation on Spartan Sport WHR:

                        it drains battery like there’s no tomorrow. So everyone disables it.

                        I would just switch it one when I feel bad, just to check…
                        but I’d rather buy a finger sensor for few euros than buying a 5x plus or 6x or whatever

                        living sideways

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                          sartoric Moderator @RiphRaph
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                          @RiphRaph
                          Yep, in fact it is a (pre) lock screen

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                            RiphRaph Bronze Member @sartoric
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                            @sartoric Meaning what, exactly?

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                              sartoric Moderator @RiphRaph
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                              @RiphRaph
                              That you can lock the screen from that view 😄

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                                RiphRaph Bronze Member @sartoric
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                                @sartoric By doing what once you’re in that view? The manual doesn’t seem to mention any of this in detail!

                                Formerly Spartan Sport WHR, happy Coros Vertix user since Sept. 2020

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                                  sartoric Moderator @RiphRaph
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                                  @RiphRaph
                                  Ehm… Don’t you have a Spartan?

                                  In that view there is the option “lock”

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                                    isazi Moderator @freeheeler
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                                    @TELE-HO just got, for the first time, your described effect! Today I did a 13k walk and because of the storm that is over western europe I wore a puffy jacket, and my watch was under the jacket. Got a very good GPS+Galileo track, but elevation gain of over 230 meters, and in Amsterdam that is quite unrealistic. Probably a factor 10 off. And very spiky like you describe.

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                                      freeheeler @isazi
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                                      @isazi
                                      there are some activities for me where wrist motion and watch position cause spiky and wrong alti recording… for me as a design engineer the sensor is not at the best possible location. design should follow function.
                                      since I don’t use OHR I generally wear my S9B looser around the wrist, this helps to avoid spikes. a longsleeve that goes underneath the watch body helps, too… but that’s nothing for summer month or gym workouts…

                                      I hope Suunto considers this for a potential S9B successor ✊

                                      and thanks for your confirmation, for me it proofs that I am not dreaming or hunting ghosts 😉

                                      living sideways

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                                        Shrek3k @RiphRaph
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                                        @RiphRaph said in Elevation Gain:

                                        This post may answer your question:

                                        https://forum.suunto.com/topic/3886/dodgy-elevation-on-spartan-sport-whr/5

                                        If you have a non-baro model and your route is only mildly hilly, that 7m threshold may mean your elevation data bears little resemblance to reality.

                                        This seems to be the best explanation.
                                        Nevertheless it is rather disappointing, that the elevation is not calculated (at least estmated) in the app, because it seems that the watch - although not counting elevation less than 7m - is nevertheless registering the elevation: in the app the ‘elevation-graph’ is displayed as correct as it is possible with GPS-only.
                                        I would like to have a ‘calculated’ elevation (marked as this value), based on the elevation shown in the graph, if possible and available supported by the elevation according to the map / track.

                                        using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
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                                          RiphRaph Bronze Member
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                                          Reviving this thread because I just noticed that my Stryd gives me fairly accurate elevation info. For today’s flattish 5.5km loop, the Spartan claimed all of 7m of elevation. Clicking on “correct elevation” in Strava yielded 20m, while PowerCenter claims a total of 30m of ascent.

                                          The Suunto algorithm is waaaay off the mark here. The correct figure is somewhere between Strava’s and Stryd’s claims; I suspect that Stryd comes closest to nailing it. It would be really nice if the watch could take not only pace and distance from Stryd, but also elevation as well, seeing that the footpod is so much more accurate!

                                          Formerly Spartan Sport WHR, happy Coros Vertix user since Sept. 2020

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                                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @RiphRaph
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                                            @RiphRaph The Stryd has a barometer, that is why it is so much better. Without the barometer the watch will simply not be as accurate. I think it would be difficult to get elevation data from Stryd as the unit does not likely broadcast elevation as it does power, distance, pace and cadence.

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