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      A Former User @Anders Yngman
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      @Anders-Yngman OHR is a huge improvement over all other Suunto devices. Distance without GPS… Will know tonight when I run on the treadmill. The runs I did outside were real good if not exactly as good as the latest firmware S9 with Stryd. Trouble is: I had my phone with me, so the watch got fused GPS, with fixes coming from the phone most likely.

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        Saketo Nemo Moderator
        last edited by Saketo Nemo

        My first impression

        some healty problems prevented me from testing it better but for now:

        • 2 times in the pool, whr surprisingly precise. I do not have a comparison with the hr band, but the cardiac progress has followed my exercises. with s9, in the same conditions, i had very bad results.
        • 1 bike ride: slow, very slow, post blood donation. Excellent tracking (ok, cycling is easy) and here too, whr absolutely plausible despite several stretches on the bumpy.

        Autonomy
        Settings:

        • animations passed from 0.5x to 0

        • automatic brightness removed and set to 2

        • no wake up with wrist rotation.

        • By bike: 10% per hour, playing occasionally with maps and occasionally checking beats and rhythm

        • swimming: 3% per hour.

        • airplane mode: 1.5% per hour

        Nice to have: shutdown by covering the screen with the palm of your hand
        Maybe on Saturday I will try it for a trail with a lot of difference in height, together with my S9. Let’s see how the barometer and tracking will behave during the run.

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          Lozen @Saketo Nemo
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          @Saketo-Nemo just a stupid question for which reason the WHR is so incredible better than S9? Valencell installed the same equipment or not?

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            sartoric Moderator @Lozen
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            @Lozen
            It seems different, just looking at it. Maybe is a sort of v2 … but I’m not even sure is still Valencell. I’ve never check

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              Lozen @sartoric
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              @sartoric in the net the sensor is the same, at least this what is declared so I don’t know where this substantial improvement is coming from. Surely WearOS should not have impact on this incredible improvement

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                sartoric Moderator @Lozen
                last edited by

                @Lozen
                For sure the weight helps, maybe the shape of the base …

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                  A Former User @Lozen
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                  @Lozen said in Suunto 7:

                  @Saketo-Nemo Valencell installed the same equipment or not?

                  It’s not Valencell anymore. Different sensor package, different algos backing it up.

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                    The_77 Silver Members @Lozen
                    last edited by The_77

                    @Lozen I remember Ray said that they ditched Valencell for this one in his hands on?

                    So about that heart rate sensor – that’s a big shift. The company has ditched Valencell’s package and gone with a combo-dish from LifeQ’s algorithms and a sensor from PixArt. LifeQ may actually ring a bell – as back about five years ago we saw TomTom employ them for their optical HR sensors in some of their wearables. It wasn’t all bad at the time, but LifeQ doesn’t list many partners since then on their site (nor much recent info at all on their site) as to other examples of who might be using more recent sensor packages.

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                      Lozen @The_77
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                      @The_77 oh, you are right, thanks I didn’t read it but in any case he didn’t mention anything about the substantial improvement regarding with the OHR (on top he has some nice words for the current company producing the sensor, don’t know why ). I am so curious because in the forum there were a lot of people mentioning the bad opinion of WHR (generally speaking) and now they have completely changed the opinion and it seems ok for almost all the Sports. So it means that the improvement is really huge

                      S9 Baro v. 2.14.16
                      SA 2.4.0 (8992)
                      iPhone12 Pro Max iOS 14.2

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                        The_77 Silver Members @Lozen
                        last edited by The_77

                        @Lozen I think he had it for one day in Vegas before giving it back and I saw the other day on twitter he doesn’t have one for test purposes yet, hence no oHR commentary?

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                          pilleus @The_77
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                            A Former User @Lozen
                            last edited by A Former User

                            @Lozen said in Suunto 7:

                            in the forum there were a lot of people mentioning the bad opinion of WHR (generally speaking) and now they have completely changed the opinion and it seems ok for almost all the Sports.

                            Who are those reformed people? 😕

                            Walking/running was a foregone conclusion as this is one nut that’s been cracked thoroughly by everyone in the industry.

                            I did some testing of H10 paired to S9 vs S7 for gym workouts linked up the thread. Things like stationary bike looked real good, as did indoor rowing, though rowing had been fine even for Fitbit as of few years back. Bodyweight exercises were hit and miss. Stretching was hit and miss, though on a closer look at the data, mostly miss. Strength and plyometric exercises are total no go.

                            @Saketo-Nemo reported good performance in the pool. @pilleus reported good bike performance outdoors.

                            So, in general we’ve got a solid OHR sensor for common, most popular sports. Sadly this is no solution for strength/weights, nor situations where you can’t wear your watch (team or impact sports).

                            Needless to say, at least part of the improvement is due to Suunto 7 being slimmer and having a flatter profile on your wrist. Also, can’t say for anyone, but OHR generally works well for me.

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                              Lozen @Guest
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                              @NickK thank you for your feedback, I already read the comment fo the people in the forum. The bad opinion was related with the WHR performance in S9, in the forum there are a lot of such kind of feedback. Good that for walking/running/swimming/internal rowing, outdoor bike it is performing well (of course based on the feedback received). As I mentioned before, it was a surpise for me but happy that now there is a reference for WHR and Suunto could apply the same approach (e.g. Technology & shape) to the future watches

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                                Agustin Gonzalez Perez Corral
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                                Hello Suunto bunch. Sorry to ask this, in case it’s been already said: but is it possible to upload gpx routes created on the suunto app or anywhere else, to the new Suunto 7?

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                                  pilleus @Agustin Gonzalez Perez Corral
                                  last edited by pilleus

                                  @Agustin-Gonzalez-Perez-Corral not with the Suunto App. I hope for an update.

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                                    Agustin Gonzalez Perez Corral @pilleus
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                                    @pilleus Thank you, man. Only reason that is stopping me from taking the plunge.

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                                      Fenr1r @pilleus
                                      last edited by

                                      @pilleus In the meantime you could try this. It’s massively redundant to Suunto’s own features and it’s probably a battery vampire but I’m vaguely curious to know if it would even work. Feel like experimenting? Try out a gpx or two?

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Fenr1r
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                                        @Fenr1r I have tested ViewRanger and it works well.

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                                          pilleus @Fenr1r
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                                          @Fenr1r said in Suunto 7:

                                          Try out

                                          Thanks, but I stay with Locus, because my smartphone is available on tour.

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                                            Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
                                            last edited by

                                            @Brad_Olwin Well done. GPX import and all? Did you try for the full loop: route from Suunto app -> ViewRanger app on S7? Just for shiggles?

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