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Ambit 3 Peak uploading routes from website to app to watch

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    Prenj @vr2udt
    last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 07:34

    @vr2udt said in Ambit 3 Peak uploading routes from website to app to watch:

    @BrianNZNL Indeed Ambit users are being left in an awkward situation, and it’s taking too long to spare some love for them. And the fact is Ambit is still being sold in many markets.

    True. But unfortunately there is no much fuss about it here. I guess the reason is that everything still works as it used to, so people don’t care. But when they disable MC app completely and force users to use cable only for syncing everything beside their moves, and remove data analysis from MC web, there will be a storm.

    I’d really love to see how many active users of ambits there are now. I guess it’s still a rather large number.

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      freeheeler @Prenj
      last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 07:43

      @Prenj
      yes, removing watch settings from the phone is a big drawback.

      living sideways

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        vr2udt Bronze Member @Prenj
        last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 08:32

        @Prenj Voted in that topic in your signature, and me too received the recent Vertical Week email from Suunto, being owner of an Ambit 3 Sport though not actively using it. Features and bells and whistles aside, I still think Ambit 3 has the sexiest form factor, and is about the right size.

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          Prenj @yura800
          last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 08:35

          @yura800

          That will remain possible. It’s just not clear whether we’ll only be able to sync our routes by cable from our computers or there will be sync by a mobile phone (like we can do now with MC app) and whether Suunto app route creator and poi management will be enabled for ambit users. I created a topic with this feature request (see in my signature).

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            Fenr1r @Prenj
            last edited by Fenr1r 26 Feb 2020, 08:42

            @Prenj Well, possibly possible. Suunto promised a form of route management for Son of Movescount: I would hope it means at least what you suggest but we don’t know. And the OP asked about “searching” - there’s no indication as yet that Suunto will provide anything to search, let alone the capability to do so.

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              Prenj @Fenr1r
              last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 08:59

              @Fenr1r said in Ambit3 peak (routes gpx import into watch support after transition):

              @Prenj Well, possibly possible. Suunto promised a form of route management for Son of Movescount: I would hope it means at least what you suggest but we don’t know. And the OP asked about “searching” - there’s no indication as yet that Suunto will provide anything to search, let alone the capability to do so.

              You are right. I’m just assuming that they would not remove anything related to navigation from MC successor. That would really be mean, and would further degrade the whole experience with the watch. But who knows… Suunto is always so secretive about their plans and roadmaps it really gets on my nerves. Dimitrios said few months ago there will be a roadmap for ambits. Still waiting.

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                sartoric Moderator
                last edited by sartoric 26 Feb 2020, 09:50

                the original post from @yura800 (for some reason wasn’t moved along with the others)

                Will we (Ambit3 peak users) be able to search (e.g in movescount) and import/export routes with the watch (especially import gpx tracks into watch memory to use during trekking, mounteneering) after the transition?
                I have just bought the watch and frustrated after finding the information that MC is not going to be supported soon.

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                  leavingsoon @JaapvdB
                  last edited by 5 Apr 2020, 02:13

                  @JaapvdB (I’m replying here just for anyone like myself who may still be trying to figure this issue out with their A3P one day.)

                  The reason this response was key for me was because @JaapvdB mentions the MOVESLINK 2 app for the computer. I’d completely forgotten I had it, but by connecting the watch to the computer with the watch’s usb cable, I could sync my watch to Movescount, thus also syncing the new routes I wanted to add to the watch. So I’m not bothering with the Suunto or Movescount apps and can just sync with Moveslink 2 for now.

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                    Ben Evans
                    last edited by 18 Apr 2020, 18:36

                    I noticed this , you can no longer create route to transfer to watch using Movescount . I’ve recently bought a Ambit 3 and this function was one of the reasons for purchase. The only current way round this is to create a gpx file with route you want on your computer then import in into movescount then onto your watch! you can actually create the gpx file on the sunnto app then transfer it to the cloud and back to your PC you just can’t do it with app directly to some watches 😔. obviously if they scrap movescount this method will not work either .

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                      Shrek3k
                      last edited by 18 Apr 2020, 23:39

                      I confirm your experience. That is really unfortunate. As you mentioned not all watches have all options in SA. And although I have a Suunto 9 (in addition to my wife’s Ambit 3 Run - I am in charge of it, too, of course 😉 ) which is supported in a more complete manner this is really bad, because
                      a. It is still much easier and more comfortable to create a route with Movescount and with a proper display
                      b. SA still has so many bugs - if you prefer to call these inconsistencies, fine with me - that I still can’t rely on it fully. And yes, there has been a steady and ongoing development - except in the areas where it has not.

                      No, I am not going to talk about leaving Suunto now because of whatever. Nevertheless I just bought my daughter a Garmin and no Suunto as she ‘needed’ a sportwatch, too. And yes, I am comparing for the next year or years before deciding which watch will be the next.

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                        Mff73
                        last edited by 19 Apr 2020, 06:35

                        I tried also, and all seems OK, except we can’t put the start point on the map.
                        For sure Suunto is working on MC future, and for sure Suunto is not giving as much details as one wants, but, I really can’t imagine they will remove a feature like that :
                        without any notice somewhere, and really partially, with just disabling start point.
                        To me it is a bug from now, and they may solve it (or not), but saying it is on purpose …

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                          Shrek3k @Mff73
                          last edited by 19 Apr 2020, 08:53

                          @Mff73 said in Ambit 3 Peak uploading routes from website to app to watch:

                          I tried also, and all seems OK, except we can’t put the start point on the map.
                          For sure Suunto is working on MC future, and for sure Suunto is not giving as much details as one wants, but, I really can’t imagine they will remove a feature like that :
                          without any notice somewhere, and really partially, with just disabling start point.
                          To me it is a bug from now, and they may solve it (or not), but saying it is on purpose …

                          I totally agree with you!

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                            Prenj
                            last edited by 20 Apr 2020, 06:27

                            Still the same. You cannot add the starting point when creating a route in Movescount. This is probably a bug (at least I hope so). Has this been reported to Suunto @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos?

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                              sartoric Moderator
                              last edited by 20 Apr 2020, 07:56

                              @Prenj
                              This is the well known problem of maproute.
                              It was fixed on SA and probably is going to be fixed on MC (or its successor)

                              The mapbox is not responding as the old api is no more available
                              “Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 410 (Gone)”

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                                Prenj @sartoric
                                last edited by 20 Apr 2020, 08:11

                                @sartoric Thnx for the info. I hope Suunto is aware of this and that they will fix it soon.

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                                  margusl @sartoric
                                  last edited by 20 Apr 2020, 09:27

                                  Here’s a fun workaround, one just needs to set a start point though gpx import. Though those who will are probably not too excited to use MC for planning in a first place …
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                                  It still gets the same response from mapbox and there’s no elevation, but all the rest seems to work. As MC route import does respect elevation data , it just makes more sense to build the whole thing with some other tool (e.g. plotaroute, as it can export waypoints that will survive MC gpx import).

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                                    petmic Bronze Member
                                    last edited by petmic 5 May 2020, 15:21 5 May 2020, 15:20

                                    It seems the altitude profile and ascent/descent are not calculated when planning new routes in movescount. Import of gpx with altitude shows altitude profile either. I am sure this used to work before.

                                    Is this a known issue now?

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                                      isazi Moderator @petmic
                                      last edited by 5 May 2020, 16:35

                                      @petmic yes, since a couple weeks.

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @petmic
                                        last edited by 5 May 2020, 16:44

                                        @petmic I am seeing the same, I believe Suunto knows about this.

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                                          petmic Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 5 May 2020, 17:46

                                          @Brad_Olwin How nice would it be from them should they let us know. I spent an hour trying to import/draw a 50k route with some tricky navigation only to realize the problem seems to be on Suunto side.

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