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Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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    MiniForklift Platinum Member @Jonathan Schwarz
    last edited by 28 May 2020, 02:09

    @Jonathan-Schwarz said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

    I think one of my biggest grievances with the S9B right now is how custom sport mode don’t save the last used configuration (ie the WHR, sensor syncing, SuuntoPlus option, etc).
    I would really love to see that implemented as it would make starting an activity much smoother and faster (ie not having to go into the settings to adjust things before starting)

    I agree !! Would be nice to just hit Start without having to scroll down and adjust each time.
    Or alternatively if you choose a setting say 3 times consecutively it would remember that and default to it. For example I always have to scroll down to turn the Wrist HR off as I don’t use it, would be nice if it ‘realised’ that and turned it off until I decide that I do want to use it. Sounds simple enough to implement

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      freeheeler @MiniForklift
      last edited by 28 May 2020, 04:00

      @MiniForklift
      not sure if you’re using a chest belt instead? if so, WHR is switched off automatically.
      I think too settings should be stored, unless the backlight. sometimes I run at day, sometimes at night…

      living sideways

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        Jonathan Schwarz Bronze Member @freeheeler
        last edited by Jonathan Schwarz 28 May 2020, 14:46

        @TELE-HO is that confirmed that the watch shuts off WHR if chest strap is paired? That was something I always wondered - say if the chest connection was lost for a period - would it switch to WHR instead. I always turn WHR offjust to be safe

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          isazi Moderator @Jonathan Schwarz
          last edited by 28 May 2020, 14:54

          @Jonathan-Schwarz for what I know, the OHR is shut down if you have another heart rate monitor paired. And I don’t think it does turn on again if you lose the connection.

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            Brad_Olwin Moderator
            last edited by 28 May 2020, 16:51

            @Jonathan-Schwarz @MiniForklift @TELE-HO I too think the start menu is way overly complicated and I have been telling Suunto this every possibility I have. So have other testers. We are there with you. Hopefully Suunto will do something to change that, I just don’t know how difficult those changes are to implement. I suspect they are not trivial.

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              MiniForklift Platinum Member @freeheeler
              last edited by 28 May 2020, 22:06

              @TELE-HO No chest strap, I don’t use any HR. Notice that it’s always searching for it when I’m waiting to start an exercise - maybe there’s somewhere in the watch settings where I can completely turn of HR during exercise?

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                freeheeler @MiniForklift
                last edited by 28 May 2020, 22:18

                @MiniForklift
                no there is no default setting afaik… it would oversteer the startmenu setting or at least have a conflict.

                @Brad_Olwin
                …my bet: about one year from now 😉
                and it would be trivial, but let’s pretend it is not 😉

                living sideways

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                  Saketo Nemo Moderator @isazi
                  last edited by 29 May 2020, 08:07

                  @isazi
                  Sure? it seems to me that since the last update we can, but I have to try. Not surprisingly, if I’m not mistaken, from the settings you can choose both to use the belt and to activate the whr.
                  obviously in default it goes on belt, but if it loses the connection now, by activating the appropriate flag, it changes to whr.
                  It seems to me that it was a function present in a Coros watch and required in this forum.
                  But again, I could be wrong. My memory is not so strong

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                    Maryn Silver Members @Saketo Nemo
                    last edited by 29 May 2020, 08:08

                    @Saketo-Nemo this would be nice for longer runs for some user which are using for example polar oh1

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                      isazi Moderator @Saketo Nemo
                      last edited by 29 May 2020, 10:40

                      @Saketo-Nemo would be terrible for a OHR sensor, especially one on the wrist, try to get a lock on heart rate mid activity. It could take pretty long, and most probably lock on cadence if you are moving. And it sounds like a nightmare of edge cases, with decisions to take on what to do when the belt is connected again, if it is. The simpler solution, and the one that most companies use as far I can see, is to have memory on the chest sensor itself to compensate for disconnects, so that data can be transferred back to the watch post activity. Of course if the battery dies this does not work, but coin cell operated straps lasts for much longer than a watch.

                      Anyway, easy to test. Start activity with paired chest strap, remove it, and go away until it disconnects, then check if the leds on the watch are blinking 🙂

                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                        florin2528 Bronze Member
                        last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 10:54

                        from my side after more than 1.4k km with S9 Baro.

                        cons:

                        • sleep tracking, was not working properly. Taking movie watching and reading as sleeping. Garmin fenix5 didn’t do that. I’m not using it at all
                        • display: light during evening/night
                        • daily stress(WHR), battery was going low too often
                          - GPS - less accurate than Ambit2 or phone, this is the most important one for me.
                        • missing shortcut for airplane mode
                        • you can’t see the time(hour) during an activity
                        • WHR not working properly, I would prefer not to show the numbers instead of wrong readings

                        pros:

                        • well made, robust
                        • good battery life compared with other
                        • navigation - helped me a lot, by loading routes from colleagues, or defining new routes when running in new places.
                        • good information on screen depending on the type of activity
                        • I wouldn’t change it for Garmin, I tried fenix5 and was very bad on battery
                        • nice straps

                        Suunto issues:

                        • difficult to order accessories in Romania
                        • I like the Suunto app, I would like to have it on the web also

                        Cheers,
                        Florin

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                          Maryn Silver Members @florin2528
                          last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 10:59

                          @florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                          you can’t see the time(hour) during an activity

                          yes you can.

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                            freeheeler @Maryn
                            last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 11:48

                            @Maryn
                            maybe he did not do the firmware update?

                            living sideways

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                              Maryn Silver Members @freeheeler
                              last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 11:49

                              @TELE-HO maybe yes.

                              In latest sw version time is shown if you set more than 3 fields on the screen.
                              Of course, you can also put time(hour) as a seperate data field.

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                                Maryn Silver Members
                                last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 11:57

                                @florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                • less accurate than Ambit2

                                By the way, if you say that Ambit 2 has better gps then is highly likely that you are running an old software 🙂

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @florin2528
                                  last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 15:38

                                  @florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                  from my side after more than 1.4k km with S9 Baro.

                                  cons:

                                  • sleep tracking, was not working properly. Taking movie watching and reading as sleeping. Garmin fenix5 didn’t do that. I’m not using it at all
                                    Florin

                                  This does not happen for me. If you have your normal sleep hours set and autoDnD set I never get sleep counted when reading or watching a movie. If you do not have sleep hours set it might be possible.

                                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                    zvonejan Bronze Member @florin2528
                                    last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 16:02

                                    @florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                    • you can’t see the time(hour) during an activity

                                    double tap or bottom button (2 sec)

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                                      isazi Moderator
                                      last edited by isazi 16 Jul 2020, 15:28

                                      Doing an alpine climbing tour this week. The altimeter of the S9b is amazing, I have been sitting on a couple of summits with the watch agreeing with the map, same for huts. On the same group a Fenix 5s (or maybe 6s, but looks more a 5s to me) user got readings far by even 100 meters. And being this the first alpine tour I did with the S9, I’m very very happy.

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                                        Bogdan1921 Silver Members Bronze Member @isazi
                                        last edited by 16 Jul 2020, 16:55

                                        @isazi

                                        I can confirm this. Also, last week I was one day for 9 hours on a hiking tour. When I’ve arrived at the peak of the mountain, the wrote altitude of the peak was exactly the same with the altitude from the watch and I was really impressed👍

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                                          Maryn Silver Members @isazi
                                          last edited by 17 Jul 2020, 12:10

                                          @isazi what gps system did you use ? Beidou?

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