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    S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move

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    • sartoricS Offline
      sartoric Moderator @surfboomerang
      last edited by sartoric

      @surfboomerang
      Starting the GPS fix inside can be counterproductive as the watch starts looking for the satellites it guess to find based on AGPS and last position, but it can’t (in most cases) as it is indoor so it starts the default search.
      This can increase the fix time when you go outside and it’s a common GPS “issue”.
      But I don’t think it’s @kabzior case here

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      • kabziorK Offline
        kabzior Bronze Member @Mff73
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        @Mff73 yeah, you are right, the next day after reset watch found fix in about 15 sec, just like when it was brand new 🙂
        unfortunately day after that it took again about 2 min and yesterday 4-5 min 😞
        also when entering sport mode watch displayed a message like “sync your watch to suunto app to get best gps accuracy” (never seen that before), but AGPS date in settings was up to date.

        @surfboomerang @sartoric
        I do not select activity when indoor, I go outside the building and do that then, usually before I chose my spotify playlist i get fix, but not those last days now.

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        • Mff73M Offline
          Mff73 @kabzior
          last edited by

          @kabzior
          When GPS fix is long, could it be because you are searching GPS in a new location from last one, and “far” from previous one ? If so, then, GPS fix is also a bit longer, as the watch remember the previous location.

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          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
            Brad_Olwin Moderator @kabzior
            last edited by

            @kabzior There might be something wrong, I cannot remember the last time it took me more than 10-20s to get a GPS fix.

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            • surfboomerangS Offline
              surfboomerang @Brad_Olwin
              last edited by

              @Brad_Olwin same for me. Always a fix in seconds.

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              • kabziorK Offline
                kabzior Bronze Member @Mff73
                last edited by

                @Mff73 said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                When GPS fix is long, could it be because you are searching GPS in a new location from last one, and “far” from previous one ? If so, then, GPS fix is also a bit longer, as the watch remember the previous location.

                That’s not the case, I left home, watch got fix in 20 sec, run to a location, stopped activity, went into building, one hour later left building and in the exact same spot selected activity and fix was not found for about 3 min.

                @Brad_Olwin said

                There might be something wrong, I cannot remember the last time it took me more than 10-20s to get a GPS fix.

                Same for me before all of this started to happen. You think maybe a factory reset should be performed?

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                • sartoricS Offline
                  sartoric Moderator @kabzior
                  last edited by

                  @kabzior said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                  stopped activity, went into building, one hour later left building and in the exact same spot selected activity and fix was not found for about 3 min.

                  Just to be sure, when you say “stopped” do you really mean it or do you mean “paused” ?

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                    Mi_chael Bronze Member @kabzior
                    last edited by

                    @kabzior

                    If it’s a high building, it’s normal.
                    May you can try in clear area like a parc or on football field?

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                    • kabziorK Offline
                      kabzior Bronze Member @sartoric
                      last edited by

                      @sartoric said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                      Just to be sure, when you say “stopped” do you really mean it or do you mean “paused” ?

                      I really mean it, I never pause activity.

                      @Mi_chael said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                      May you can try in clear area like a parc or on football field?

                      OK, will do.

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                      • Phil PowellP Offline
                        Phil Powell
                        last edited by

                        I’m having the same issue. Tried soft reset and agps is showing current date, but locking on to gps is taking anywhere up to 4mins

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                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Phil Powell
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                          @Phil-Powell How long after syncing to the phone did you start the watch, it takes about 15 min to unpack the AGPS data.

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                          • Phil PowellP Offline
                            Phil Powell @Brad_Olwin
                            last edited by

                            @Brad_Olwin thanks for the reply. I’ve tried it just after syncing and sometimes a day or so after the last sync. Today was about 20mins after syncing and didn’t seem to take as long. Only had this s9 a couple of weeks so still getting used to it. Do you recommend syncing it before every time that I’m going to use the gps

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                            • sartoricS Offline
                              sartoric Moderator @Phil Powell
                              last edited by

                              @Phil-Powell
                              Once a day it’s enough as the agps file is updated daily

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                              • Phil PowellP Offline
                                Phil Powell
                                last edited by

                                So just sync daily to the app should make a difference. Thanks for the help. 😊

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                                  isazi Moderator @Phil Powell
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                                  @Phil-Powell if you leave your watch connected to the app all the time, you don’t have to do much at all. It will update the AGPS file at night I believe, or first thing in the morning.

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                                    Phil Powell @isazi
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                                    @isazi I leave it connected to the app and normally sync it after a workout to get the data. But I’ll check that it auto updates the agps. Thanks

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                                      A Former User @Phil Powell
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                                      @Phil-Powell Sometimes I have the same issue. Mostly if I start training in city. Here I wait minutes to find position. Yes, here is not so good signal (big buildings). But if I compare it with my old Ambit 2, they started in few seconds in the same position. Maybe inner antenna in S9? My AGPS is synced through night. Every morning when I get up I have actually version.

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                                      • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                        Łukasz Szmigiel @Guest
                                        last edited by

                                        @mcindr have you tried different GNSS configuration? Ie. GPS + Beidou or only GPS?

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                                        • Phil PowellP Offline
                                          Phil Powell @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                          last edited by

                                          @Łukasz-Szmigiel I’ve not changed any settings from the factory ones

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                                          • inkognitoI Offline
                                            inkognito Platinum Member
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                                            Hi guys, just one thought: Sometimes I feel like the GPS status arrow probably freezes even though the GPS signal is already acquired before starting the exercise… The GPS arrow symbol is grey and blinking. But once I press the lower button to access the options and immediately press the upper button to go back to the “Start screen”, the arrow immediately turns green. Cannot this be the case? Could you test this when acquiring GPS signal takes noticeably long?

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