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    S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move

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    • cosme.costaC Offline
      cosme.costa @kabzior
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      @kabzior said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

      @cosmecosta said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

      In my opinion with an AGPS up to 3/4 days old you should not have issues getting a GPS lock in less than a minute and if you sync before the activity do it at least 30 minutes before it.

      That is a valuable advice, thank you, will try to do that.

      But on the other hand - if I sync every day before the activity, even if watch needs like 15 mins to process the data, it still has AGPS data from the day before…

      No it doesn’t has the one from the day before, when it is updating it is like there is no AGPS file, at least in my experience.

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      • kabziorK Offline
        kabzior Bronze Member @cosme.costa
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        @cosmecosta OK, so I did soft reset once more, synced in the morning and went for a run in the evening. Got GPS fix in exactly 110 seconds, which is worse than before problems began, but still significantly better than 6-7 min that I had for last 2 weeks.

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        • Mff73M Offline
          Mff73 @kabzior
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          @kabzior
          After the soft reset, the first fix can be little longe : the reset will aslo reset the “previous” position data (not only AGPS).

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          • surfboomerangS Offline
            surfboomerang @kabzior
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            @kabzior Do you select your exercise indoor? In other words, is GPS active indoor? I noticed on my s9 baro that when I select an exercise indoor and then walk out the door it takes sometimes significantly longer to get a fix then when I select an exercise while I am standing outside.
            I’m the last case I almost always get a fix immediately

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            • sartoricS Offline
              sartoric Moderator @surfboomerang
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              @surfboomerang
              Starting the GPS fix inside can be counterproductive as the watch starts looking for the satellites it guess to find based on AGPS and last position, but it can’t (in most cases) as it is indoor so it starts the default search.
              This can increase the fix time when you go outside and it’s a common GPS “issue”.
              But I don’t think it’s @kabzior case here

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              • kabziorK Offline
                kabzior Bronze Member @Mff73
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                @Mff73 yeah, you are right, the next day after reset watch found fix in about 15 sec, just like when it was brand new 🙂
                unfortunately day after that it took again about 2 min and yesterday 4-5 min 😞
                also when entering sport mode watch displayed a message like “sync your watch to suunto app to get best gps accuracy” (never seen that before), but AGPS date in settings was up to date.

                @surfboomerang @sartoric
                I do not select activity when indoor, I go outside the building and do that then, usually before I chose my spotify playlist i get fix, but not those last days now.

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                • Mff73M Offline
                  Mff73 @kabzior
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                  @kabzior
                  When GPS fix is long, could it be because you are searching GPS in a new location from last one, and “far” from previous one ? If so, then, GPS fix is also a bit longer, as the watch remember the previous location.

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                  • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @kabzior
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                    @kabzior There might be something wrong, I cannot remember the last time it took me more than 10-20s to get a GPS fix.

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                    • surfboomerangS Offline
                      surfboomerang @Brad_Olwin
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                      @Brad_Olwin same for me. Always a fix in seconds.

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                      • kabziorK Offline
                        kabzior Bronze Member @Mff73
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                        @Mff73 said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                        When GPS fix is long, could it be because you are searching GPS in a new location from last one, and “far” from previous one ? If so, then, GPS fix is also a bit longer, as the watch remember the previous location.

                        That’s not the case, I left home, watch got fix in 20 sec, run to a location, stopped activity, went into building, one hour later left building and in the exact same spot selected activity and fix was not found for about 3 min.

                        @Brad_Olwin said

                        There might be something wrong, I cannot remember the last time it took me more than 10-20s to get a GPS fix.

                        Same for me before all of this started to happen. You think maybe a factory reset should be performed?

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                        • sartoricS Offline
                          sartoric Moderator @kabzior
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                          @kabzior said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                          stopped activity, went into building, one hour later left building and in the exact same spot selected activity and fix was not found for about 3 min.

                          Just to be sure, when you say “stopped” do you really mean it or do you mean “paused” ?

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                            Mi_chael Bronze Member @kabzior
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                            @kabzior

                            If it’s a high building, it’s normal.
                            May you can try in clear area like a parc or on football field?

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                            • kabziorK Offline
                              kabzior Bronze Member @sartoric
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                              @sartoric said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                              Just to be sure, when you say “stopped” do you really mean it or do you mean “paused” ?

                              I really mean it, I never pause activity.

                              @Mi_chael said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                              May you can try in clear area like a parc or on football field?

                              OK, will do.

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                              • Phil PowellP Offline
                                Phil Powell
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                                I’m having the same issue. Tried soft reset and agps is showing current date, but locking on to gps is taking anywhere up to 4mins

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                                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Phil Powell
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                                  @Phil-Powell How long after syncing to the phone did you start the watch, it takes about 15 min to unpack the AGPS data.

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                                  • Phil PowellP Offline
                                    Phil Powell @Brad_Olwin
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                                    @Brad_Olwin thanks for the reply. I’ve tried it just after syncing and sometimes a day or so after the last sync. Today was about 20mins after syncing and didn’t seem to take as long. Only had this s9 a couple of weeks so still getting used to it. Do you recommend syncing it before every time that I’m going to use the gps

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                                    • sartoricS Offline
                                      sartoric Moderator @Phil Powell
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                                      @Phil-Powell
                                      Once a day it’s enough as the agps file is updated daily

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                                      • Phil PowellP Offline
                                        Phil Powell
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                                        So just sync daily to the app should make a difference. Thanks for the help. 😊

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                                        • isaziI Offline
                                          isazi Moderator @Phil Powell
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                                          @Phil-Powell if you leave your watch connected to the app all the time, you don’t have to do much at all. It will update the AGPS file at night I believe, or first thing in the morning.

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                                          • Phil PowellP Offline
                                            Phil Powell @isazi
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                                            @isazi I leave it connected to the app and normally sync it after a workout to get the data. But I’ll check that it auto updates the agps. Thanks

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