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    S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move

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    • isaziI Offline
      isazi Moderator @tomahawk5000
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      @tomahawk5000 look for assisted GPS.

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        tomahawk5000 @isazi
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        @isazi oh, right now I see 2020/03/07
        Thank you

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        • Michal PostupalskiM Offline
          Michal Postupalski
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          Hi,

          I have problems with my Suunto 9 Baro. I use Suuntolink to synchronize settings and AGPS data. Unfortunately AGPS data are not updated. AGPS file is 3 weeks old so it takes a long time to find GPS signal. The only solution is to reset my watch and sync again but it shouldn’t work like this. In my opinion this file should be updated every time the new one exists.
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            @Michal-Postupalski why not sync with sunto app ?

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            • kabziorK Offline
              kabzior Bronze Member
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              Recently, I have experienced this problem too with S9B.
              Last 2 weeks it takes about 5-7 minutes to find a GPS fix.
              I checked the AGPS on my watch, it is up to date, I always synchronize with the SA before leaving the house and the date is current day.
              I did a soft reset, it didn’t help. I used GPS + Beidou, changed to GPS only, also no improvement.
              I don’t think I did anything right before the problem happened (FW update or anything like that)
              Is there anything else I can do?

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @kabzior
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                @kabzior This is not normal. I have never had this problem. Make sure that the AGPS is there, sometimes mine does not sync properly. The only time I have had this issue is when the AGPS file is missing. Are you using the cable and the newer Suuntolink, charging via connection to the computer?

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                • kabziorK Offline
                  kabzior Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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                  @Brad_Olwin Yes, AGPS is there, I always sync before activity and the date of AGPS in settings->info is up to date.
                  I charge with wall charger. The only two times I connected watch to PC and Suuntolink was when I was upgrading software.

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                    cosme.costa @kabzior
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                    @kabzior said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                    @Brad_Olwin Yes, AGPS is there, I always sync before activity and the date of AGPS in settings->info is up to date.
                    I charge with wall charger. The only two times I connected watch to PC and Suuntolink was when I was upgrading software.

                    I think your problem is that you sync before the activity. The AGPS file needs some minutes to deploy, if you sync just before the activity, when you try to get the GPS lock it is deploying so it is like it is missing but later when you check it, it is up to date, these are my findings and my own experience.

                    In my opinion with an AGPS up to 3/4 days old you should not have issues getting a GPS lock in less than a minute and if you sync before the activity do it at least 30 minutes before it.

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                    • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                      Łukasz Szmigiel @cosme.costa
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                      @cosmecosta if I remember correctly from similar discussions in this forum, the watch needs 15 minutes to extract the data.

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                      • kabziorK Offline
                        kabzior Bronze Member @cosme.costa
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                        @cosmecosta said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                        In my opinion with an AGPS up to 3/4 days old you should not have issues getting a GPS lock in less than a minute and if you sync before the activity do it at least 30 minutes before it.

                        That is a valuable advice, thank you, will try to do that.

                        But on the other hand - if I sync every day before the activity, even if watch needs like 15 mins to process the data, it still has AGPS data from the day before…

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                        • cosme.costaC Offline
                          cosme.costa @kabzior
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                          @kabzior said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                          @cosmecosta said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                          In my opinion with an AGPS up to 3/4 days old you should not have issues getting a GPS lock in less than a minute and if you sync before the activity do it at least 30 minutes before it.

                          That is a valuable advice, thank you, will try to do that.

                          But on the other hand - if I sync every day before the activity, even if watch needs like 15 mins to process the data, it still has AGPS data from the day before…

                          No it doesn’t has the one from the day before, when it is updating it is like there is no AGPS file, at least in my experience.

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                            kabzior Bronze Member @cosme.costa
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                            @cosmecosta OK, so I did soft reset once more, synced in the morning and went for a run in the evening. Got GPS fix in exactly 110 seconds, which is worse than before problems began, but still significantly better than 6-7 min that I had for last 2 weeks.

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                              Mff73 @kabzior
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                              @kabzior
                              After the soft reset, the first fix can be little longe : the reset will aslo reset the “previous” position data (not only AGPS).

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                                surfboomerang @kabzior
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                                @kabzior Do you select your exercise indoor? In other words, is GPS active indoor? I noticed on my s9 baro that when I select an exercise indoor and then walk out the door it takes sometimes significantly longer to get a fix then when I select an exercise while I am standing outside.
                                I’m the last case I almost always get a fix immediately

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                                  sartoric Moderator @surfboomerang
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                                  @surfboomerang
                                  Starting the GPS fix inside can be counterproductive as the watch starts looking for the satellites it guess to find based on AGPS and last position, but it can’t (in most cases) as it is indoor so it starts the default search.
                                  This can increase the fix time when you go outside and it’s a common GPS “issue”.
                                  But I don’t think it’s @kabzior case here

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                                  • kabziorK Offline
                                    kabzior Bronze Member @Mff73
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                                    @Mff73 yeah, you are right, the next day after reset watch found fix in about 15 sec, just like when it was brand new 🙂
                                    unfortunately day after that it took again about 2 min and yesterday 4-5 min 😞
                                    also when entering sport mode watch displayed a message like “sync your watch to suunto app to get best gps accuracy” (never seen that before), but AGPS date in settings was up to date.

                                    @surfboomerang @sartoric
                                    I do not select activity when indoor, I go outside the building and do that then, usually before I chose my spotify playlist i get fix, but not those last days now.

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                                      Mff73 @kabzior
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                                      @kabzior
                                      When GPS fix is long, could it be because you are searching GPS in a new location from last one, and “far” from previous one ? If so, then, GPS fix is also a bit longer, as the watch remember the previous location.

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @kabzior
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                                        @kabzior There might be something wrong, I cannot remember the last time it took me more than 10-20s to get a GPS fix.

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                                        • surfboomerangS Offline
                                          surfboomerang @Brad_Olwin
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                                          @Brad_Olwin same for me. Always a fix in seconds.

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                                          • kabziorK Offline
                                            kabzior Bronze Member @Mff73
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                                            @Mff73 said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                                            When GPS fix is long, could it be because you are searching GPS in a new location from last one, and “far” from previous one ? If so, then, GPS fix is also a bit longer, as the watch remember the previous location.

                                            That’s not the case, I left home, watch got fix in 20 sec, run to a location, stopped activity, went into building, one hour later left building and in the exact same spot selected activity and fix was not found for about 3 min.

                                            @Brad_Olwin said

                                            There might be something wrong, I cannot remember the last time it took me more than 10-20s to get a GPS fix.

                                            Same for me before all of this started to happen. You think maybe a factory reset should be performed?

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