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    • freeheelerF Offline
      freeheeler @Aleksander H
      last edited by freeheeler

      @aleksander-h
      this is what S7 and S9 did stationary on the balcony for 17 minutes.
      S7 is red, S9 is green
      3330a554-0d96-4db3-ac80-062b37b238db-image.png

      S7 is darker green, S9 is yellowish-green (Edit: I know from Dimitrios, that temperature drop can affect the altitude to some extend)
      3af9736e-5f58-4ca0-8db7-ba77316d3f8b-image.png

      living sideways

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      • Aleksander HA Offline
        Aleksander H Bronze Member @freeheeler
        last edited by

        @freeheeler so the S7 stayed within 2 meters during those 17 min. Quite a bit better than mine then. I’ll test again tomorrow in case the weather was some how affecting things.

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          mikulass @isazi
          last edited by mikulass

          @isazi Hi, thanks for reply, app version is 2.1.0 (8785) on ios 12.5.1 iPhone 6… and 0m is on Trail Running, Walking or Trekking activities. Also It happened few days ago when I was walking uphill - S7 started to decrease altitude…I was up around 40+ m and on the watch was shown something like -18 m…

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          • isaziI Offline
            isazi Moderator @mikulass
            last edited by

            @mikulass the 0 meters issue will be fixed, from what we read today in the forum, with the next software update.

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

            Blog: isazi's home

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              mikulass @Aleksander H
              last edited by mikulass

              @aleksander-h Hi, thanks pointing the other thread, yes this is my case… and as @ISAZI pointed I see the graph 96375.jpg with ascent, but summary “table” shows Ascent 0m 43090.jpg …(apologize don’t know how to resize pictures in forum online editor)…

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                mikulass @isazi
                last edited by mikulass

                @isazi Hi, great thanks for info. It will be mobile app update or S7 sw update?

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                • isaziI Offline
                  isazi Moderator @mikulass
                  last edited by

                  @mikulass I think it’s the S7 update, seems to be a watch issue.

                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                  Blog: isazi's home

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                    mikulass @isazi
                    last edited by

                    @isazi Thanks. And is there any date for this update already confirmed or early estimate? Thanks.

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                    • Aleksander HA Offline
                      Aleksander H Bronze Member @mikulass
                      last edited by

                      @mikulass well. There tends to be about 4 updates a year and last update was second week of January (I think). So hopefully soon-ish.

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                      • Aleksander HA Offline
                        Aleksander H Bronze Member
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                        So did a new 1 hours test in a ventilated plastic container on the balcony today (to protect from wind).

                        https://quantified-self.io/user/DUrrVK0qMVZO5TtAP0r6Ox2HVLD2/event/8a2d0e25e183f66c53a81a88b4b49e0a9bac6db8b0298aceae0ff0113c17a35f

                        Still a bumpy ride for the elevation. At one point it falls 5 meters and then relatively quickly makes a 10 meter jump, followed by a slow recovery down at the end there.

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                        Not really sure what to do now (if anything). Not really sure how stable a result I can reasonably expect from a watch.

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                        • freeheelerF Offline
                          freeheeler @Aleksander H
                          last edited by

                          @aleksander-h
                          I would contact support and check with them.

                          living sideways

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                          • aeroildA Offline
                            aeroild Bronze Member @Aleksander H
                            last edited by

                            @aleksander-h I guess the question is how the altimeter works during an exercise given that the 0 meter ascent bug will be fixed in the next update. As you could see from my balcony test, my watch went crazy when I left it on the balcony, but when strapped on my wrist it’s working okay at the moment. And I did buy it to wear it on my wrist and not to leave it on my balcony. 🙂

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                            • Aleksander HA Offline
                              Aleksander H Bronze Member @aeroild
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                              @aeroild My main reason for putting it on the balcony in the first place was to check if clothing was causing the issues. When I went snowshoeing I got quite a few false up and downs on the elevation which really added up. Claimed over 900 m ascent which it most certainly wasn’t. I thought maybe my clothing was pumping air into the hole, if that makes sense.

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                              • Jamie BGJ Offline
                                Jamie BG Bronze Member @Aleksander H
                                last edited by

                                @aleksander-h - I know its jumping around a bit, which could be due to temperature / GPS moving when fixing etc, however from what I see there overall variation is approx 20m, and if exlcude original is closer to 10m; is that really an issue? Its not like we are piloting planes etc and its critical the alititude is correct.

                                I also understand that you have seen much larger variances, but from above there really aren’t any showing, which suggests that it may not be watch.

                                Would tend to agree with others, that may be best to wait for fix, and then reassess - especially as from above can’t see anything majorly wrong (from my point of view).

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                                • Mff73M Offline
                                  Mff73
                                  last edited by Mff73

                                  Just for fun, a balcony test with old SSU, and QS altitude graph for 25min
                                  With 3m filtering --> 0m ascent = 0m descent

                                  6ce4d6c8-944d-478c-bca2-20cfca60edd7-image.png

                                  But my SSU moved about 200m horizontally 🙂 but with house+moutain behind 😉

                                  Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                  Suunto Vertical all black
                                  Wife : S9PP
                                  SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                  Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                  • Aleksander HA Offline
                                    Aleksander H Bronze Member @Jamie BG
                                    last edited by

                                    @jamie-bg problem is that on a 4 hour hike, these up-and-downs quickly accumulated to a few hundred meters extra ascent. If the suunto app was able to correct elevation I probably wouldn’t care much, but right now I have activities with ascents so high I feel like I’m 10x fitter than I actually am 😆 .

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                                    • Fenr1rF Offline
                                      Fenr1r @Mff73
                                      last edited by

                                      @mff73 Tried the same thing a while back with SSU. 48 hrs outside window: 0m ascent/descent (MC) throughout - albeit at the wrong altitude - “28km” horizontally (house, no mountain).

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                                      • Aleksander HA Offline
                                        Aleksander H Bronze Member @Fenr1r
                                        last edited by

                                        @fenr1r I guess I could just take my SSU for long(ish) hikes rather than the S7 in future :p.

                                        Either way, I won’t be doing anything about it until I see how things fare once the 0m bug is patched.

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                                        • freeheelerF Offline
                                          freeheeler @Aleksander H
                                          last edited by

                                          @aleksander-h
                                          maybe I missed it or forgot already: during your hike or run, does the total ascent exaggerate already or do you only see it after the hike?
                                          I assume it happens on the go, right?
                                          Because I rely on the ascent to some extend. If this is not correct the ascent rate can’t be right, either. It’s not life threatening, but good to know by the rule of thumb if it’s still 1 or 2 hours to the summit by the values on your screen.

                                          living sideways

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                                          • freeheelerF Offline
                                            freeheeler @Fenr1r
                                            last edited by

                                            @fenr1r
                                            how far can my watch go without me 😂

                                            living sideways

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