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    • EgikaE Offline
      Egika Platinum Member @Aleksander H
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      @aleksander-h @olymay
      can you elaborate on the usefulness of a weight scale syncing data anywhere?
      Does your weight change that quickly?
      I am checking my weight every now and then and it has been constant für 2 years… I set it in the watch or app once - why would I need a frequent update (that has any impact on other things)? Even if I was 500g lighter in the morning and 500g heavier in the afternoon, that should not make a big difference…?
      Please enlighten me.

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      • olymayO Offline
        olymay Gold Members @Aleksander H
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        @aleksander-h said in Update time in Europe?:

        I have a Withings scale. Would be great if measurements just went straight into the Suunto app via Google Fit. That would get me to reinstall the app 😆 .

        These scales really are great! I’m less concerned by the absolute figures and only pay attention to the trend line. And I can step on and forget, no need to actually read the numbers on the screen (which is handy as I do it in the morning and I’m not often fully awake at that point 😂 )

        Has Google Fit fixed the issue where we can’t delete workouts that originate from third-party apps? This was the issue that made me wipe my data and uninstall.

        Not as far as I can see. Never needed to do it myself, but I can see how this could be frustrating.

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        • Nigel Taylor 0N Offline
          Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @Aleksander H
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          @aleksander-h said in Update time in Europe?:

          @nigel-taylor-0 said in Update time in Europe?:

          Active - Grey as-is
          Inactive - Lighter Grey

          I feel this is already differentiated with the running man icon and the dot under the bar it applies to.

          That only appears in the Watch, it needs to appear in the phone App also (same with sleep icon appears on Watch but not in the app).
          (Note - I think ‘active’ is something more than just ‘workouts’)

          How would one define if a bar should be red or not?

          Well the app has decided!? Its written there at the bottom as a duration…I’d personally just like to see ‘when’ that was…

          BUT…

          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Update time in Europe?:

          @nigel-taylor-0 resources go up or down. Green vs gray. Stressed and active and inactive can all be at the same 30min interval that each bar represents

          I’m not convinced.

          Right now - with 11hrs and 30mins of full sets of 30mins today…I see…
          0:00h Active

          • 1h:30min Inactive
          • 2h:00min stressed
          • 8h:00min recovering.

          = 11:30mins - which implies a 30minute segment is aligned to a specific ONE of active/inactive/stressed/recovering.

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Nigel Taylor 0
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            @nigel-taylor-0 we dont color per stage. And yes the segments can be 20% stressed 30% something. IT really bases on HR and movement.

            Up = green
            Down = gray

            We did try it with more colors but had it challenges and looked ugly. Unfortunately this is a decision taken

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            • olymayO Offline
              olymay Gold Members @Egika
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              @egika said in Update time in Europe?:

              @aleksander-h @olymay
              can you elaborate on the usefulness of a weight scale syncing data anywhere?
              Does your weight change that quickly?
              I am checking my weight every now and then and it has been constant für 2 years… I set it in the watch or app once - why would I need a frequent update (that has any impact on other things)? Even if I was 500g lighter in the morning and 500g heavier in the afternoon, that should not make a big difference…?
              Please enlighten me.

              Personally, I weigh myself most mornings, once a day. I’m not interested in what the figure is, I pay attention to the trend line, which is nicely plotted in the Withings app. It also summarises each month and tells me if I went up or down that month (also does it annually).

              Mine also tracks other body metrics such as fat %, muscle mass, bone density, water content, HR, pulse wave velocity). Again, I am less concerned about the actual numbers, I just want to see the trend going in the right direction.

              Interestingly, I can look at the trend line to see when the lockdown started in the UK (all lines went in the wrong direction!) and when I started running over the summer (lines started going the right way!).

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                Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @olymay
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                @olymay said in Update time in Europe?:

                HR data doesn’t look like it has synced yet, but that might be because I haven’t turned off the Google Fit HR monitoring in the watch app. I’ll change this and see what happens.
                Maybe someone with more experience can advise?

                I have Google Fit HR monitoring disabled & also don’t see heart rate pushed to Google Fit (EXCEPT the heart rate recording during Workouts).

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                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @olymay
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                  @olymay said in Update time in Europe?:

                  Interestingly, I can look at the trend line to see when the lockdown started in the UK (all lines went in the wrong direction!) and when I started running over the summer (lines started going the right way!).

                  Well that was expected right 🙂 ?

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                  • olymayO Offline
                    olymay Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Update time in Europe?:

                    @olymay said in Update time in Europe?:

                    Interestingly, I can look at the trend line to see when the lockdown started in the UK (all lines went in the wrong direction!) and when I started running over the summer (lines started going the right way!).

                    Well that was expected right 🙂 ?

                    Very much so. But the speed at which it changed was pretty scary and was what caused me to start running again. If I had waited for my actual weight to change a significant amount it would have taken much longer.

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                    • Aleksander HA Offline
                      Aleksander H Bronze Member @Egika
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                      @egika said in Update time in Europe?:

                      can you elaborate on the usefulness of a weight scale syncing data anywhere?

                      No need to enter the number manually. Step on it and forget it.

                      Does your weight change that quickly?

                      No, but it does change. I stepped on mine about 1 per week to check which way things are going.

                      I am checking my weight every now and then and it has been constant für 2 years…

                      We should all be so lucky 😆 . Mine started going up once I started working as a programmer. I started tracking weight to make sure it doesn’t go out of control 😛

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                        Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Update time in Europe?:

                        @nigel-taylor-0 we dont color per stage. And yes the segments can be 20% stressed 30% something. IT really bases on HR and movement.

                        Up = green
                        Down = gray

                        We did try it with more colors but had it challenges and looked ugly. Unfortunately this is a decision taken

                        Yeah- I did wonder if it would become harder to glance at…I think maybe a SLIGHTLY red tinged grey for the downward caused by Stress might be an improvement (I’d like to know when it thinks I’m stressed, as thats potentially actionable info to think about to alter future behaviours).

                        And definitely a future update of the phone app MUST add in the ‘Workout icons’ and ‘Sleep icons’ below the chart (as per shown in the Watch app) with just a solid bar at y=0…thats a given really and would enhance clarity massively (as proven/demonstrated on the Resources Tile on the Watch, which is frankly brilliant!)

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                          Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @Nigel Taylor 0
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                          ie -

                          THIS…
                          20210420_121240.jpg
                          (the sleep bar appears more purple tinged in real life)

                          …with the Activity and Sleep icons and lines (and ever so slightly gradient filled shade from the top), is significantly better than THIS…

                          Screenshot_20210420-121306_Suunto.jpg

                          …in terms of glanceable usability and giving a context to the day.

                          I’m guessing also (by the difference in slope), that after waking today, my first 2hrs are the ‘stressed’ hours, and the next 2hrs are inactive…a VERY SLIGHT red tinge to the grey might make that really visible.
                          (although @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos states that a 30mins can contain multiple types, I don’t believe that, the numbers add up to a whole which would indicate a 30minute segment is tagged ultimately as stressed OR inactive OR active OR recovering, (OR - not AND ) - it obviously is the case that individual minutes might be stressed or inactive or whatever, which is maybe what Dimitrious is referring to, but I guess there is some aggregation after each half hour period that decides what SINGLE bucket to tip a half hour segment into?).

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Nigel Taylor 0
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                            @nigel-taylor-0 the 30 minute time window that is represented and stamped as one unit can have multiple states.

                            Look at your watch now at 13:27 (my time) and you might be recovering. Start an activity, then it will be active. I suppose it will be in the end recovering (as 27mins were recovering)

                            But yeah the app needs a bit (or more) improvement to align with the watch

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                              @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Update time in Europe?:

                              @nigel-taylor-0 the 30 minute time window that is represented and stamped as one unit can have multiple states.

                              Look at your watch now at 13:27 (my time) and you might be recovering. Start an activity, then it will be active. I suppose it will be in the end recovering (as 27mins were recovering)

                              But yeah the app needs a bit (or more) improvement to align with the watch

                              Hmm, and I guess looking at my Watch pic above, the activity does show to be “sightly less than” 2 bars…(I did an easy 45mins recovery run). So what you’re saying does add up.

                              But yeah - bash the best bits from the S7 Watch GUI into the Phone App and everyone is happy!

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Nigel Taylor 0
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                                @nigel-taylor-0 remember this could benefit us (s9) users that dont have those nice markers on the watch 🙂

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                                  @дима-мельниченко I have been sleeping with both the S9 and S7. They agree quite well. The S7 provides a bit more information about the type of sleep but otherwise, the HR data, Resources and Sleep times are in good agreement.

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                                    ianarg @Aleksander H
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                                    @aleksander-h I just use the android app syncmytracks to move the withings scale info to my various accounts including Suunto and Strava.

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                                      @ianarg said in Update time in Europe?:

                                      @aleksander-h I just use the android app syncmytracks to move the withings scale info to my various accounts including Suunto and Strava.

                                      It syncs the weight from Withings to Suunto? Where in the Suunto App is it shown? The only place I can see currently is in the watch.

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                                        Aleksander H Bronze Member @olymay
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                                        @olymay said in Update time in Europe?:

                                        @ianarg said in Update time in Europe?:

                                        @aleksander-h I just use the android app syncmytracks to move the withings scale info to my various accounts including Suunto and Strava.

                                        It syncs the weight from Withings to Suunto? Where in the Suunto App is it shown? The only place I can see currently is in the watch.

                                        I think this is SyncMyTracks being misleading. I believe they are actually syncing agains Sports-Tracker rather than Suunto, and Sports-Tracker does indeed allow specifying weight on the profile page.

                                        Incidentally, I’ve always been sceptical of SyncMyTracks. Last time I used it, they wanted me to enter my username and password directly into the app, rather than redirecting me to said services login pages. I completely forgot about it until @pavel-samokha mentioned it recently in a different discussion.

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                                          Jamie BG Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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                                          @brad_olwin
                                          Very happy with the sleep tracking - matched very well with my CPAP machine in terms of duration, start and stop times.
                                          Based on CPAP info the sleep stages could be ok - but could only tell if brain is hooked up to measure brain activity.
                                          But looks good and is certainly impressive.
                                          Would love to see the sleep stages graphed against time as they are when viewing in google fit. Gives an awesome representation (of course no idea if accurate, but looks good).

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                                          • ianargI Offline
                                            ianarg @Aleksander H
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                                            @aleksander-h @olymay i’ve used it for a few years seems ok and reliable to me. Yes it syncs to your profile weight in Suunto app. Perhaps i slightly mislead you, i sync Withings to Google Fit for the weight, then Google Fit is sync’d through SyncMyTracks to my other services including Suunto App. In Suunto, if you go to settings\user settings the weight changes in there.
                                            So my config is Withings to Google Fit, then SyncMyTracks to various services from with the source of weight being Google fit and Strava being the source for activities. Works for me.

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