Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs)

Rob33

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos I agree, but it seems to me that a definition of 240 * 240 is nothing extraordinary today (eg compared to the S7)?
Which certainly doesn’t prevent the S9 peak from being a great watch …

Personally, I think I prefer my very large and very heavy S9B

PS: but I can change my mind …

sky-runner

@brad_olwin said in Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs):

For #1, what is the issue with Endurance mode for you? I have extensively tested this and use it for my Ultras. The tracks are nearly as good as Performance, really not enough to make a difference and the other measurements are the same as Performance (HR and altitude). So what is the issue with extended battery??? I can get at least 50h estimate on the S9P and I love having the smaller watch.

I’ve had a very bad experience with Ambit 3 Peak using GOOD (5 second) battery mode. It was dead simple in theory, but during Western States 100 the watch failed miserably once I went through the first canyon of the race, and believe me that was very frustrating experience during one of the most important races that I’ve ever done. I don’t want to rely on algorithms calculating my position and pace while pinging GPS only once per minute. There is a lot of stuff that can go wrong, and I bet endurance battery modes aren’t as well tested. I don’t want GPS chip to power off and power on again every minute. That is all simple in theory. In practice when it powers on again it may not be able to locate satellites quickly enough considering the kind of terrain we have here in Washington state. I have also tried extended battery modes with S9B and didn’t like that - the track was quite mediocre, and the distance calculation was quite poor. I know other owners of S9B that came to the same conclusion. I don’t know a single person who uses extended battery modes unless they have to do something like a 3 day hike. To me S9B accuracy was already not so great even with 1 sec updates, and I don’t want to compromise that even further.

Furthermore if I use a route and look at a distance to next waypoint (aid station), that would likely require the watch to switch to 1 sec updates, right? Again, more things to go wrong, and I just don’t want to go there.

sky-runner

@bulkan said in Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs):

I can’t think about a watch right for you.

I can’t either. I am using Fenix 6X at the moment, and it is far from ideal. It does a lot of things well, but some of the most important core features all have issues. If I could combine core features of Suunto (GPS accuracy, pace, navigation) with customizability, battery life, screen size, and on-device maps of Fenix 6X, that would be close to ideal to me.

pavel.samokha

Just my two cents, as I see a lot of opinions here.
I think it’s important to have here the following picture

and link

to say that S9P is not a replacement for S9B but two form thee S9 collection now. They will exist and be sold side by side (you remember, that S9B recently got a facelift, right?). That’s up to you decide which one suits you better.

For many Suunto users who already have S9B there is probably no reason to change it for S9P. But it’s not a reason to be disappointed - I honestly think just the opposite - it’s meaning you’ll have more FW updates.
On the other hand - I was also quite skeptical about new design and size. I am okay to wear big watches even though I have small wrists. But now, after some time using it - Oh, I love it.

Regarding the price:
Feature-wise Suunto watches always cost premium to some chinese brands (and I’m talking not only about Coros, but there are others as well, Huami or Huawei are making incredible devices) - it’s up to you if you’re okay to pay that premium for long-lasting made in Europe product focused on outdoor or you’d better go for another brand or you wait for a bargain.

P.S. As usual - all being said is my personal opinion as a customer.

Bulkan

@sky-runner stay with the Garmin. So you won’t have any issues with any Suunto.

surfboomerang

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs):

This is a big thank you to all testers that made this happen.

Special thanks to @Saketo-Nemo @isazi @Joaquin @Hecke and @Brad_Olwin (our own guys here )

You guys must have had a lot of fun on this forum, reading all our wildest speculations about a potential new watch and guessing about the phrase “silence of the mind”

I can imagine it’s sometimes hard not to intervene.

Nevertheless, thanks for testing and doing all the hard work guys!

suzzlo

I think this is the best time for being a Spartan user. I have no problem to decide that S9P will be my next one.

Design is incredible
The reviews are promising (even DCR seemed happy)
Improvements compared to Spartan are huge
SA is getting a resilient pace of imrpvements
My Spartan is more that 4 years old

So, thanks Suunto

Luís Pinto

@suzzlo Excellent design - excellent materials - good option in change HR sensor - good gps implementation. Suunto Team should be proud in this product!

https://www.suunto.com/globalassets/productimages/suunto-9-peak/moss-gray/expressive/ss050524000-suunto-9-peak-moss-gray-expressive-view-sleep-insight-7-day-01.png?height=550&format=jpg&bgcolor=f6f6f6

Mff73

@suzzlo said in Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs):

I think this is the best time for being a Spartan user. I have no problem to decide that S9P will be my next one.

Design is incredible

The reviews are promising (even DCR seemed happy)

Improvements compared to Spartan are huge

SA is getting a resilient pace of imrpvements

My Spartan is more that 4 years old

So, thanks Suunto

I could have written the exact same words.
In my case, S9P will be my wife’s watch for our common outside activities (I will continue using SSU) and my day life watch for rest of time.

Small form, baro, good GPS, and… Suunto brand

sky-runner

@bulkan I owned 3 different Suunto watches in the past and still have one of them. I wouldn’t had upgraded if I was unhappy with Suunto. I am a demanding user but mostly because the terrain here in mountains where I live is notoriously difficult for GPS watches. Until a few years ago if you went to any trail ultra race in Washington, half of all runners at the start would wear Suunto watches because they provided much better accuracy than competition. I was actually quite interested in S9B and will certainly consider future models of Suunto. But an attitude like that (telling me to stay with Garmin) is certainly not helping.

freeheeler

@sky-runner
I understand @Bulkan just confirmed what you said: this isn’t a watch for me. You explained why and in my very personal opinion such comments about a newly developed and presented product is condescending.
Think about what people feel who were waiting for this release and even worse: all the people who were involved in developing, testing and producing it.
I assume there will be no Suunto watch that meets your demands in the next bunch of months, right?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@sky-runner good words.

Without wanting to get your money (because actually I wont be getting them) what about using the S9P as a casual watch and training vs ie the Garmin Enduro or F7 that might have 1000h of GPS tracking for the actual race?

suzzlo

@sky-runner Suunto is a company that try to make money selling products. They decide their features and roadmaps, so they take decisions. We as consumers, can try to influence in Suunto’s decisions (win this forum) and then, we can chose between different brand and products.
I agree with @Bulkan: “if you are not going to be happy with a Suunto, just don’t buy”.
But it’s same for anything: “if you are not going to be happy with this BMW, just don’t buy it”

Life is short, try to be happy

BR

Bulkan

@sky-runner said in Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs):

@bulkan I owned 3 different Suunto watches in the past and still have one of them. I wouldn’t had upgraded if I was unhappy with Suunto. I am a demanding user but mostly because the terrain here in mountains where I live is notoriously difficult for GPS watches. Until a few years ago if you went to any trail ultra race in Washington, half of all runners at the start would wear Suunto watches because they provided much better accuracy than competition. I was actually quite interested in S9B and will certainly consider future models of Suunto. But an attitude like that (telling me to stay with Garmin) is certainly not helping.

you expressed here yourself very clear here and in other social communities. And for what I’ve read I don’t think what you want/need/imagine/demand exist with the current technology. And when things aren’t as you want/need and you’ve told that more than once we will have again a post hijacked.

That’s why I recommend you don’t use a Suunto. You won’t be happy and we will know it.

Rob33

@bulkan and the others… I am quite surprised by the outcry against @sky-runner … Everyone adds a layer, doesn’t he have the right to speak? He gives his opinion (and that can be understood).

I thought this forum different.
If the only possibility is to go into ecstasies, well, let’s go into ecstasies, like that, in fact, we will all be happy …

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@rob33 you are right, but other members are right as well. There was a lot of conflict here between the users in the past.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@sky-runner said in Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs):

Lack of customizability of the app and the watch, which I assume remain mostly unchanged. For example, I really have to have Monday as first day of training week, but I am unwilling to change my phone’s locale for a number of reasons. I also really prefer to have mixed units. These are all small things that should be trivial to make more customizable (Ambit / Movescount had that), so I really don’t understand why it is so hard to do the same in the new platform?

FYI we are changing this asap on Android in regards to the first day

suzzlo

@rob33 I’m not saying, don’t post in this forum. Any idea or comment could add value, but I think that @sky-runner requirements and S9P features will not match so… just don’t buy seems to be a good advise (at least for me)

BR

freeheeler

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos
not only the conflict, everyone has the right for his/her opinion and freedom of speech. but frequent and constant negative vibes and unrealistic demands made users and moderators helpless IMHO

Bulkan

I don’t think this should go further. I don’t see where is the hostility. Is a user with a strong opinion about what needs, I respect that, and I have my opinion “He won’t be happy”. We don’t need 30 post of 2.000 words to express this.

I prefer to talk about the new Suunto 9 peak rather than what don’t have and from there Suunto app, histeriesis… bla blab bla bla like is happening.

Suunto 9 peak!!