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      nikshot @nikshot
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      @nikshotAs I wrote above, the watch has a connection to the phone, it even transmits the information, but until then … you need the Internet for the reverse!

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        Mff73 @nikshot
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        @nikshot
        ok, so maybe an iOS thing : it is working right now for me on Android.

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          sartoric Moderator @nikshot
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          @nikshot said in Transfer routes from logbook to navigation?:

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          Is the toggle active (clickable) ?
          Because when you create the route, the toggle is always “off”.

          If the watch is connected there no reason why the route cannot be exported/saved … except a bug of course 😁

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            Mff73 @nikshot
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            @nikshot
            On Android, when watch is well connected, the watch icon is ticked
            Screenshot_20210531-120337_Suunto.jpg

            Your screenshots show a dash. Maybe iOS really needs Internet to connect to watch. Which for sure will be very bad for you 😔

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              nikshot @Mff73
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              @mff73It strikes me that when I go online, only then the phone updates the card and the buttons for transferring back to the clock appear - it is visible from the photos I have shown.

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                Mff73 @nikshot
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                @nikshot
                can’t help you more 😞
                maybe wait for some iOS experts to confirm if internet is mandatory to connect to watch and help.

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                  David Young Bronze Member @nikshot
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                  @nikshot I would strongly recommend that you get on the phone to Suunto or contact them by Chat. They’re quick to respond and should be able to help.

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                    A Former User @Mff73
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                    @mff73 I think is one of the differences between Android and iOS version of Suunto app. I have iOS and just like @nikshot I don’t have the option the save a route from an activity, when phone has no internet connectivity.

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @nikshot
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                      @nikshot I just checked this with no internet connection I can click the button @sartoric had in the image and upload to the watch. Moreover, I can import a GPX file from a list on the phone and import into SA and import into the watch, with no cellular and no wifi. You cannot draw a route without internet.

                      Are you on the beta for iOS?

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                        Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
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                        @brad_olwin You’re right on that score but the OP’s aim was to turn a just-generated activity track on the watch into a useable route without internet access. To get the same result as the Logbook entry -> navigable Route on the Ambits (watch-only).

                        On my iOS (latest Beta), and @andrasveres’, that won’t work. In my case, even with a happy BT connection to a Spartan, there are no Three Dots (for more functions) in the activity record … without internet. There’s no share icon, either: pretty much as @nikshot illustrated.

                        We can’t export a GPX in iOS without a data connection because the SuuntoFormatActivity -> GPX requires more oomph than many phones have, apparently. Perhaps the same thing applies to extracting a SuuntoFormatRoute from a SuuntoFormatActivity and xferring the result to the watch under iOS?

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Fenr1r
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                          @fenr1r That is a very specific case. There is find back to retrace the route on the watch, which should suffice. and if @nikshot knows the route ahead of time or alternates they can be loaded and used. I see this as less of an issue.

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                            nikshot @Brad_Olwin
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                            @brad_olwinFor me this is a very serious drawback and again I say it makes no sense the whole concept of a watch whose main function is to be GPS navigation !!! Imagine three days moving in the high mountains in an absolutely unknown and wild place, without marked trails, without internet connection. Every day you make a track in the clock with the idea to go back the same way! On the fourth day you go back, but you don’t have internet, electricity in the phone, the phone broke, you lost your phone, the rain got it wet and it blocked … And what if I have a watch (depending on the phone in question) with GPS navigation, with a battery of up to 170 hours, a watch that is so strong and protected that it will work even after an atomic bomb ??? What exactly will it do for me in this situation - maybe to measure my heart rate (if I could and blood pressure: D) to find out how angry I am with the ridiculous situation …

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                              Prenj
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                              Find back is nice to have, but what if watch crashes during the activity?

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                                nikshot @Prenj
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                                @prenjMaybe I will have to use the phone again 🙂

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                                  sartoric Moderator @nikshot
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                                  @nikshot said in Transfer routes from logbook to navigation?:

                                  but you don’t have internet, electricity in the phone, the phone broke,

                                  you can also lose the watch, the watch drains the battery , or it brokes, or it explodes … or …

                                  😁

                                  What exactly will it do for me in this situation

                                  What should you do, maybe, Use a map ? 😉

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                                    nikshot @sartoric
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                                    @sartoricYears ago I bought Suunto Ambit 2 Sapphire, he doesn’t have this problem! If the clock draws the route, you can use it immediately, without the need for a phone and whatever else you can think of. With this watch I went around all the mountains in Bulgaria without anyone’s help - Pirin, Rila, Stara Planina … I just put the watch on and left and if something went wrong, the watch would bring me back. So I became a very big fan of Suunto. The Suunto watch became mine favorite toy. A few months ago I bought Suunto 9 Baro Titanium in the hope of having an even more powerful, safe and modern tool for my adventurous adventures, but at the moment I am very disappointed if Suunto Brand does not correct this omission (to be able to use the created tracks). from the watch without being dependent on a phone) will lose me from their community and maybe I won’t be the only one.
                                    And maybe you didn’t get the sarcasm - that everyone “if” means how absurd it is for Suunto to be dependent on a phone in situations where the phone itself is useless 🙂

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                                      sartoric Moderator @nikshot
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                                      @nikshot said in Transfer routes from logbook to navigation?:

                                      And maybe you didn’t get the sarcasm - that everyone “if” means how absurd it is for Suunto to be dependent on a phone in situations where the phone itself is useless

                                      maybe you didn’t get my sarcasm too about how absurd it’s for a hiker to rely only on a gps (watch or not) when wandering in unknown places following new and unknown paths 😁

                                      I mean, I get your disappointment, but with android I can download, convert and reload the route without any data coverage.
                                      Afaiu @Brad_Olwin can do it on IOs too
                                      In situation like that, I usually bring a power bank with me, so I can charge both watch, phone, head lamp and battery in general … and a map of course 😄

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                                        nikshot @sartoric
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                                        @sartoricYes, I understand, you have just confirmed my conclusion, and that is that in critical situations, the modern Suunto (unlike the old generation CA 2) is useless …
                                        You don’t think I bought Suunto to walk with him on the “Champs-Élysées”: D

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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @nikshot
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                                          @nikshot useless is a bit exaggerated right?

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                                            nikshot @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                            @dimitrios-kanellopoulosDon’t get me wrong, I love this watch, but in the specific situations I’m talking about, that’s right.

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