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      bnorthrop @ChrisA
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      @chrisa I’ve stopped paying attention to my resources. I’m at or very near zero all day every day. I’ve been assuming the watch will “learn” more about me over time, but so far it hasn’t. Perhaps it still will (I’ve only had the watch for about a week and a half) but so far the algorithm hasn’t been adapting.

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        A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Body Resources general whackiness:

        This issue affects all watches currently and I am afraid it’s outside Suunto. We have spent quite some effort to remedy this and atm it’s not on our hands.

        I am talking specifically about the sudden drop after something easy. Easily reproducible with a stretching or yoga activity.

        Confirmed, stretching activity, made a huge drop to 1%
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          lexterm77 Bronze Member @Guest
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          No problems here

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            A Former User @lexterm77
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            @lexterm77 said in Body Resources general whackiness:

            No problems here

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            36min hr?

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              lexterm77 Bronze Member @Guest
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              @andré-faria

              I quit drinking for 3 days in a row. 😀

              And a little ascent on the ladder of chronic training load.

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                Patrick Löffler Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Hi Dimitros. Did 10 min Yoga this morning with a drop of 70% hard earned body resources. 😊 Any timeline from Firstbeat for a fix? Thanks

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                Thinking about going back to Suunto 9 Peak

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                  Patrick Löffler Silver Members
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                  The drop in resources is still there and annoying. Would be great to know when this can be fixed. 😳

                  Apple Watch Ultra (currently on my wrist)
                  Thinking about going back to Suunto 9 Peak

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                    Tomas5 @Patrick Löffler
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                    @patrick-löffler well this is evidence that 10 minutes of stretching is much exhausting than 2 hours of MTB bike. 😄 (Just joking)

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                      A Former User @Patrick Löffler
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                      @patrick-löffler said in Body Resources general whackiness:

                      The drop in resources is still there and annoying. Would be great to know when this can be fixed. 😳

                      Anyone here that has resource at 0% at the middle of the day without doing no activity (registering)?
                      I already shared that with @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yesterday (one of the days that it happened, but it happened more times).

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                        Tomas5 @Guest
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                        @andré-faria 0% at evening, than had around 38% at this morning, and after 4h of programming (sitting at computer) and light 5 minuts walk for lunch i have 8% resources.

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                          Patrick Löffler Silver Members
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                          This morning after 15 min Yoga.

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                          Thinking about going back to Suunto 9 Peak

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                            zhang965 @Patrick Löffler
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                            @patrick-löffler said in Body Resources general whackiness:

                            This morning after 15 min Yoga.

                            Your HRV might be trop important,
                            I know the algorithm from Firstbeat is based on HRV, if your HRV cannot back to before quickly, it will show you sent all your resources.

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                              Tomas5 @zhang965
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                              @zhang965 said in Body Resources general whackiness:

                              HRV

                              Can HRV be measured precisely with wrist heart rate sensor?

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                                zhang965 @Tomas5
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                                @tomas5 said in Body Resources general whackiness:

                                @zhang965 said in Body Resources general whackiness:

                                HRV

                                Can HRV be measured precisely with wrist heart rate sensor?

                                Measured by wrist heart rate sensor yes
                                Precisely no…

                                I mean the body resources could work for 80% population…

                                I remember I did a recovery test, and I can only get 8% …

                                Quote from firstbeat

                                To make this complex relationship visible and accessible, the Firstbeat Analytics engine identifies and interprets meaningful patterns in how your heart beats from one moment to the next, a phenomenon known as heart rate variability (HRV)

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                                  Tomas5 @zhang965
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                                  @zhang965 so it will never work correctly on S5? 😞

                                  For example now I am watching TV for around 2-3hours but by watch i am stressed and resources are still on 0%.

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                                    zhang965 @Tomas5
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                                    @tomas5 said in Body Resources general whackiness:

                                    @zhang965 so it will never work correctly on S5? 😞

                                    For example now I am watching TV for around 2-3hours but by watch i am stressed and resources are still on 0%.

                                    it works correctly for almost population, but you (and me) maybe your HRV is not in the 80% case of all

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                                      Tomas5 @zhang965
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                                      @zhang965 i will test light excercise with hr belt if there will be some difference, but i think i had same result in past with WHR and HR belt in terms of resources consuption.

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                                        Nikita_Gx
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                                        Same thing here, hardly ever exceeded 75% of resources and the drop after sitting at my laptop is immense. 7PM I am at zero resources.

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                                          Jamie BG Bronze Member
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                                          Its interesting as Garmin Fenix uses the same sleep tracking and body resources (both first beat) as per the Suunto 7. So you get the same score, though may be slighly more refined on the F6 as respiration, pulse ox also factor into it.

                                          The big difference is in how the sleep score is reflected in the recharge of the body resources/body battery. Garmin uses it own calc for the providing the recharge value, rather than the first beat one, and it is far more generous and much better reflects what I generally feel. With the S7 my resource as always gone by 8pm at .latest, with the F6 I am usually between 20-40% by 12am
                                          The other difference is recharging during the day - never really saw it with the S7, however with the F6 if your HRV is good, then you do get some recharging - generally always get it when you nap, and if sitting still watching TV etc, often see some recharge due to that.

                                          It will be interesting to see if first beat now potentially leverages Garmin’s resoures and knowledge and improves its recharging side of the body resources.

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                                            lexterm77 Bronze Member @Jamie BG
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                                            For me it depends on nutrition, I get good resources when I eat large amount of fruits before sleep, where vegetables really dont make any difference for me at least. I try to repeat and I have been logging all my food via fitnesspal connected to TP for over 5 years now minus my trips outside country. Best results (lowest HR) is basically when I have carbs as 80% of intake (not junk food though), stay well hydrated, and sleep at 16C.

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