Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9

freeheeler

@alejandro
It’s nice when you notice that you can be part of improvements.
I’ve criticized a couple of times the position of the baro holes and now S9P looks pretty nicely improved for this issue

TonyG

@egika said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:

@foxster Thank you for sharing your insights.
For me other advantages of the Peak are:

big improvement in the wrist HR measurement

super quick charge

I would also add the

adaptive light function, I think it works great
clicky buttons

MiniForklift

I tried out the Polar Grit X Pro for a month before going back to my S9B, main thing was the screen size. The Grit X Pro is actually 4mm larger than the Peak but it still seemed quite small after using my S9B for nearly two years; like you I struggled to read the numbers whilst running and it ended up being the straw that broke the proverbial camels back

S9B Vs Polar Grit X Pro ❆ REVIEW

Now back with my trusty gold S9B, happy days

suzzlo

@surfboomerang

freeheeler

@suzzlo
me when Suunto releases S9P XL (or whatever they’ll call it…)

suzzlo

@freeheeler I’m waiting to have planned workout and structured workouts, then Spartan and Garmin 745 will go directly to the shelve and buy S9P or S9P XL or S5P Baro (let me dream)

BR

sky-runner

@foxster said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:

Baro for me is not that important as the accuracy of the GPS altitude is fine for my trail running and hiking.

Accuracy of GPS is fine for the absolute altitude but not for calculating total ascent / descent. Non-baro Suunto watches have a rather large threshold so you’ll see total ascent / descent values noticeably smaller than actual.

DMytro

@sky-runner only if you hike small hills. If I go up a mountain with 600-1000 vertical meters, elevation is spot on with map/baro version. Elevation is only no good for hills.

MiniForklift

@dmytro Agree with this. Roling hills not so good but decent climbs are not far off. Feel like it’s got a bit better over the last update; I used to be way off compared to my training partner who uses a Garmin Enduro, now it’s pretty similar. Happy with this as my S9B always used to massively under report elevation gain

I do believe there’s a full fix coming in a future update

DMytro

@miniforklift I mean the non baro version, but alright

MiniForklift

@dmytro said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:

@miniforklift I mean the non baro version, but alright

Oh, sorry. Yeah well the same seems to apply for the Baro version too, something Suunto is aware of and working on

DMytro

@miniforklift I hope there is some research going into non baro algorithms as well, I think a lot can be done with algorithms to compensate for noise from GPS data.

Soylent Yellow

@freeheeler said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:

@foxster said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:

Of course, the ideal would be a Peak with a larger display. Hopefully that’s something Suunto is considering

would be my potential next watch

It will be called “Ambit 4”

Brad_Olwin

@dmytro I think that the non-baro versions are being improved. I can get very good altitude gains from non-baro watches on big climbs. Eventually, when GPS altitude is more reliable we can do away with the baro sensor for altitude as it has problems too. Running into major head winds with a baro gave me at least 5-fold greater ascent than the actual ascent.

DMytro

@brad_olwin you mean improved in general or in an upcoming releases? Sure, I’m more than satisfied with the performance of my watch, the only problem for now are hill repeats with undercounting and cloudy days on flat terrain with overcounting.

Brad_Olwin

@dmytro both I hope. I imagine that with antenna and satellite improvements this will happen.

freeheeler

@brad_olwin
I would always go for a baro version.
I’ve never had issues with gusts so far… only with my sweaty forearm

cosme.costa

@brad_olwin I think that if you wear the watch in the left arm won’t be much issues with wind, the sensor is less exposed.

Brad_Olwin

@cosme-costa said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:

@brad_olwin I think that if you wear the watch in the left arm won’t be much issues with wind, the sensor is less exposed.

I was wearing on the left arm, an S9baro gave huge overestimates because a very strong wind was blowing directly into the sensor. I have had this happen more than once. It dies not matter how the watch is worn.

So far this has not occurred with the S9Peak.

sky-runner

@dmytro The error is the same with the bug hills - it is just relatively small and therefore not noticeable. Basically, it loses a fixed amount of elevation gain on every single climb no matter how short or long it is. If there is only one large climb the error is relatively tiny compared to the overall elevation gain. However when there are a lot of small climbs, for example when running on rolling hills, the accumulated error may be significant. My estimate is that Suunto 9 Baro loses 3-7 meters (10-20 feet) per climb. The non baro version loses even more.