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Suunto vertical ascent/ descent totally incorrect

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    maszop Bronze Member @Tieutieu
    last edited by 4 Mar 2024, 08:31

    @Tieutieu Vertical and the previously used 9PP measure point height very accurately. No issues with that.
    The problem is with these spikes visible on the chart - sudden, small, but very frequent changes in elevation.

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      Tieutieu Platinum Member @maszop
      last edited by 4 Mar 2024, 08:38

      @maszop I had perfectly understood that issue => never had such behaviour even in very windy conditions

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        Mff73 @maszop
        last edited by 4 Mar 2024, 08:53

        @maszop
        and the last solution would be also to consider your watch as faulty.
        it is not nice, but sometimes it may happen.
        years ago i had issues with my spartan ultra, searching for all possible solutions about baro issues and ascent/descent.
        RMA one day, and baro sensor was faulty : new watch never had any issues.
        (not related to wind though).

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          maszop Bronze Member @Mff73
          last edited by 4 Mar 2024, 09:14

          @Mff73 Two watches are faulty?
          9PP and Vertical, maybe, but very hard to believe.
          Maybe I can test another Vertical very soon.

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            surfboomerang
            last edited by 4 Mar 2024, 11:43

            Back in the days when I still owned a S9B, altitude was still recorded for windsurfing activities. The altiude graph went all over the place and I ended up with hundereds of meters of ascend and descend values. The graph above looks very clean. Nothing like the graphs I saw when it was influenced by the wind.
            Maybe the algorithm changed over the years, but I don’t know if wind is the issue this time.

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              maszop Bronze Member @surfboomerang
              last edited by 4 Mar 2024, 12:11

              @surfboomerang Something has changed because my problems started with 9 Peak Pro. Previously, in the case of Traverse and 9 Baro, despite much lower accuracy, there was no such disaster.

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                r00bbo
                last edited by 1 Jul 2024, 15:04

                Hi!
                I have encountered the same issue. On an extremely windy day, my 9 Peak Pro reported an elevation of 2400m when the hike (validated with my partner’s Garmin) was around 1100m.
                This is the first time I have experienced such a disparity, hiking or cycling.

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @r00bbo
                  last edited by 1 Jul 2024, 20:37

                  @r00bbo said in Suunto vertical ascent/ descent totally incorrect:

                  Hi!
                  I have encountered the same issue. On an extremely windy day, my 9 Peak Pro reported an elevation of 2400m when the hike (validated with my partner’s Garmin) was around 1100m.
                  This is the first time I have experienced such a disparity, hiking or cycling.

                  https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9960/more-faq?_=1719606955631

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                    Archi Mendel
                    last edited by 25 Nov 2024, 02:11

                    Just had a hike with a 1000-meter ascend, and my Suunto Vertical logged 1950 meters of altitude gain. It was quite windy, so this might be the reason. What I don’t get is: wind is a problem + covered by clothing is a problem.

                    How does Suunto expect me to solve this problem if both requirements—to hide from the wind and not cover with clothing—are conflicting?

                    I’m disappointed, to say the least. I would rather use GPS-based altitude gain data than the one Suunto provides. This 2x altitude gain is simply not usable—it messes my records and the track that I publish.

                    There are quite a few posts with a similar problem in this forum. Is Suunto planning to introduce any firmware update that, maybe, will use GPS and barometer data to somehow detect anomaly data?

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Archi Mendel
                      last edited by 25 Nov 2024, 13:45

                      @Archi-Mendel I have reported this to Suunto and provided extensive logs and files. Others have contributed as well. I am confident they are working on some sort of solution. Several sites will correct your data and you can manually change the elevation gain/loss in SA.

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                        last edited by 26 Nov 2024, 16:53

                        I think it’s not a real problem the wind or the jacket if the sensor whole is stress free for the vertical specifically. Stress free = no sweat, water, or debris ie dirt etc inside the sensor.

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                          thanasis Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 27 Nov 2024, 13:37

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto vertical ascent/ descent totally incorrect:

                          I think it’s not a real problem the wind or the jacket if the sensor whole is stress free for the vertical specifically. Stress free = no sweat, water, or debris ie dirt etc inside the sensor.

                          i once submerged the watch into the river while hiking and changed the ancent by 1500Meters. it was exceptional for strava that i “managed” such a a fast ascent -descent

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