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      maszop Bronze Member @surfboomerang
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      @surfboomerang Something has changed because my problems started with 9 Peak Pro. Previously, in the case of Traverse and 9 Baro, despite much lower accuracy, there was no such disaster.

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        r00bbo
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        Hi!
        I have encountered the same issue. On an extremely windy day, my 9 Peak Pro reported an elevation of 2400m when the hike (validated with my partner’s Garmin) was around 1100m.
        This is the first time I have experienced such a disparity, hiking or cycling.

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @r00bbo
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          @r00bbo said in Suunto vertical ascent/ descent totally incorrect:

          Hi!
          I have encountered the same issue. On an extremely windy day, my 9 Peak Pro reported an elevation of 2400m when the hike (validated with my partner’s Garmin) was around 1100m.
          This is the first time I have experienced such a disparity, hiking or cycling.

          https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9960/more-faq?_=1719606955631

          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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          • Archi MendelA Offline
            Archi Mendel
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            Just had a hike with a 1000-meter ascend, and my Suunto Vertical logged 1950 meters of altitude gain. It was quite windy, so this might be the reason. What I don’t get is: wind is a problem + covered by clothing is a problem.

            How does Suunto expect me to solve this problem if both requirements—to hide from the wind and not cover with clothing—are conflicting?

            I’m disappointed, to say the least. I would rather use GPS-based altitude gain data than the one Suunto provides. This 2x altitude gain is simply not usable—it messes my records and the track that I publish.

            There are quite a few posts with a similar problem in this forum. Is Suunto planning to introduce any firmware update that, maybe, will use GPS and barometer data to somehow detect anomaly data?

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              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Archi Mendel
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              @Archi-Mendel I have reported this to Suunto and provided extensive logs and files. Others have contributed as well. I am confident they are working on some sort of solution. Several sites will correct your data and you can manually change the elevation gain/loss in SA.

              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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              • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                I think it’s not a real problem the wind or the jacket if the sensor whole is stress free for the vertical specifically. Stress free = no sweat, water, or debris ie dirt etc inside the sensor.

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                  thanasis Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto vertical ascent/ descent totally incorrect:

                  I think it’s not a real problem the wind or the jacket if the sensor whole is stress free for the vertical specifically. Stress free = no sweat, water, or debris ie dirt etc inside the sensor.

                  i once submerged the watch into the river while hiking and changed the ancent by 1500Meters. it was exceptional for strava that i “managed” such a a fast ascent -descent

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                  • Eduardo LacerdaE Offline
                    Eduardo Lacerda
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                    Any updates to this? any ways to mitigate the issue?

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                      v.sacre Silver Members
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                      I am interested as well on this topic.
                      Since several weeks, my Vertical is quite inconsistent with elevation data.
                      There are a lot of mini variations that I can see using the vertical speed field for exemple.

                      When going uphill, I see that vertical speed fluctuate from positive to negative.

                      This leads to wrong elevation data. Often 2-3 times what elevation data should be.

                      Reading this topic, I still not understand if it is a bug or something going wrong with the watch itself.
                      You often ask if we have cleaned the baro sensor. How can we do this ?

                      A3S | S9B | S9P | S9PP | Suunto Vertical Ti
                      Suunto Wing

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                        isazi Moderator @v.sacre
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                        @v.sacre how old your Vertical is? Could be just a clogged/dirty baro hole, or the sensor that is failing

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                          v.sacre Silver Members @isazi
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                          @isazi I bought it directly so a bit more than 2 years old.
                          I always wear it so possible to it is not super clean but I cannot see anything special in the two holes underneath “suunto” label.
                          How can we clean this ?

                          A3S | S9B | S9P | S9PP | Suunto Vertical Ti
                          Suunto Wing

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                            isazi Moderator @v.sacre
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                            @v.sacre try with some warm (not hot) water, but do not put anything inside the holes. My baro sensor failed when the watch was almost two years old, sent it in for repair and had the sensor replaced. Since then it is working fantastic again

                            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                            Blog: isazi's home

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                              v.sacre Silver Members
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                              Here is an example during this lunch gravel ride. Dual capture comparing Suunto Vertical (worn under arm sleeves) with Garmin Edge 1040 elevation data.
                              If global d+/d- is roughly the same, there are some big discrepancies between the two. And regarding the terrain, elevation data of Garmin is more representative.

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                              A3S | S9B | S9P | S9PP | Suunto Vertical Ti
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                                isazi Moderator @v.sacre
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                                @v.sacre does not seem terrible. What happens in daily mode, if you set the watch to a certain altitude and do not move for many hours? Does it change?

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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                                  v.sacre Silver Members @isazi
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                                  @isazi I didn’t try to log an activity but the widget alti and baro show me not always the correct elevation value indeed. For example, I live at 260m height. Watch show me currently 192m.

                                  A3S | S9B | S9P | S9PP | Suunto Vertical Ti
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                                    isazi Moderator @v.sacre
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                                    @v.sacre okay maybe tonight try to set manually 260 and tomorrow morning check what the value is. If it is wildly inaccurate, try cleaning the sensor and repeat the experiment

                                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                                      v.sacre Silver Members @isazi
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                                      @isazi For information I did a hard reset of the watch. I log 3 activities until then and it seems to be back to normal, without any elevation overestimating.
                                      Hope it will stay like this until Vertical 2 comes out.

                                      A3S | S9B | S9P | S9PP | Suunto Vertical Ti
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