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SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024

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    Tieutieu Platinum Member @mlakis
    last edited by 6 Apr 2024, 18:58

    @mlakis I noticed the same. My first « guess » was that the watch was calculating an updated CTL even if not synchronized with SA.

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      wmichi @mlakis
      last edited by 6 Apr 2024, 19:07

      @mlakis I would also guess that the app does the calculation on its own, but also gets the numbers from the app/backend via sync. And since the backend is the single source of truth, whatever is calculated locally gets overwritten. But it’ s interesting, that this happens on the second sync. Maybe there’s an async calculation process on the backend involved, which is not done at the first sync of the day or triggered by the first sync of the day. Either way, I am happy that the numbers on the watch are finally correct 🙂

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        Antoine Bronze Member
        last edited by 7 Apr 2024, 04:28

        Hello,
        A question on sleep tracking (in Suunto App):
        Is “veille” (in french) for non-sleep/wake-up duration ?
        Thanks

        Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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          Dušan Ković
          last edited by 7 Apr 2024, 10:14

          I just tried biking (Race on the suunto Bike mount) with Always on display enabled. Navigation is unusable, it is fine when display is bright, but it dims in 10s and it is almost impossible to see even in shadows. On the direct sunlight it is invisible. I had to click watch every time I wanted to navigate my route. This is really terrible and it needs to be fixed asap.

          SR
          SA latest beta
          Polar Verity Sense
          Pixel 6

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            cemoi71
            last edited by 8 Apr 2024, 07:02

            I don’t noticed so much issues about it, but i’m glad to have it, for the new watch faces and all the new fixes…
            And especially now my s9pp notifys and displays me back again when the watch reach the lower power limits.
            It was broken in the last firmware.

            I had one time a “strange” notification on the watch that I never had before. The watch noticed me that I was seatdown too long, more than 2 hours…
            quite interesting, I find it good, but I ask me where are the settings of it, to be able to change something (time, enable/disable I don’t know what else…)

            suunto 9 peak pro
            Custom Android (LineageOS)

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              sartoric Moderator @cemoi71
              last edited by sartoric 4 Aug 2024, 07:34 8 Apr 2024, 07:28

              @cemoi71
              did you check the manual?

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                cemoi71 @sartoric
                last edited by 8 Apr 2024, 16:21

                @sartoric I’ve checked it yes, but didn’t have look deeper inside in place that you’ve pointed.
                In french it is translated in form that we could interpret it as “wake-up” too.
                Which it don’t lead me to think that is could handle on the movement by seating too.
                Only a thinking point of view…
                Many thanks for having pointed to me 🙂

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                Custom Android (LineageOS)

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                  false Bronze Member
                  last edited by 10 Apr 2024, 08:08

                  <sarcasm-on> Love this new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on my 9PP <sarcasm-off/>

                  Joking aside, another firmware update brought new regression bugs. It isn’t surprising, is it? If we read this thread we can see people once again are complaining about very basic use cases - dark screen while biking, useless airplane mode from the widget, breadcrumbs etc. It looks like Suunto doesn’t care about software QA at all and it’s very very sad.

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                    Matúš Bronze Member @false
                    last edited by 10 Apr 2024, 08:21

                    @false said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

                    Love this new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on my 9PP

                    It’s to avoid getting lost while track running…😅

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                    Suunto Spartan Sport

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                      enriqueescoms @false
                      last edited by enriqueescoms 4 Oct 2024, 09:01 10 Apr 2024, 08:59

                      @false said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

                      new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on my 9PP

                      Yeah, this new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on the 9PP is not cool at all. 😖

                      Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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                        A Former User @false
                        last edited by A Former User 4 Oct 2024, 09:14 10 Apr 2024, 09:14

                        @false Regression in sw development unfortunately can happen, the real problem is waiting months for patching when regression seriously impairs usage. Always-on breadcrumb is only nuisance imo.

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                          Dušan Ković
                          last edited by 10 Apr 2024, 09:39

                          Does anyone has any info on bugfix update for bunch of problems that users are encountering?

                          Thanks

                          SR
                          SA latest beta
                          Polar Verity Sense
                          Pixel 6

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                            Mff73 @enriqueescoms
                            last edited by 10 Apr 2024, 09:50

                            @enriqueescoms said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

                            @false said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

                            new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on my 9PP

                            Yeah, this new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on the 9PP is not cool at all. 😖

                            what is always on breadcrumbs, please ?
                            is it the capability to remove the breadcrumb screen ? I just tested with my wife’s S9PP and it is still possible with activity navigation option. Am i confusing things ?

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                            Suunto Vertical all black
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                              A Former User @Mff73
                              last edited by 10 Apr 2024, 09:53

                              @Mff73 The navigation option is not remembered once set to another value

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                                false Bronze Member @Guest
                                last edited by false 4 Oct 2024, 10:20 10 Apr 2024, 10:00

                                @cjanevate said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

                                @false Regression in sw development unfortunately can happen

                                For sure, but I am, but actually “we are”, talking about extremely basic scenarios and not even an edge cases (i.e “push this button 3 times then push that button 4 times then turn around and get a bug”)

                                Always-on breadcrumb is only nuisance imo.

                                Yes, it is, but, imo, such easily reproducing bugs (one button push away from a user) must be eliminated before rolling a release. Really, I can’t believe. All in all, Suunto isn’t a small indie dev company that can afford to neglect such matters.

                                PS: especially when users have to wait for months till next firmware update

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                                  A Former User @false
                                  last edited by 10 Apr 2024, 10:08

                                  @false said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

                                  For sure, but I am, but actually “we are”, talking about extremely basic scenarios and

                                  unfortunately, until they discover the problem, there is nothing they can do, and rehashing the same concerns does not help them. if you do not tolerate this, you know the solution…

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                                    false Bronze Member @Guest
                                    last edited by 10 Apr 2024, 10:11

                                    @cjanevate said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

                                    if you do not tolerate this, you know the solution

                                    Yes, make it open-source 😃

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                                      enriqueescoms @Mff73
                                      last edited by 10 Apr 2024, 10:28

                                      @Mff73 Now, by default, when we start an gps activity, the breadcumb screen is always activated. Of course, you can deactivate it before starting the activity. But it doesn’t save the settings for the next one. It’s not a big problem but it can be a bit of a nuisance.

                                      Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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                                        Mff73 @enriqueescoms
                                        last edited by 10 Apr 2024, 11:37

                                        @enriqueescoms
                                        Ah OK.
                                        Any one has its own level of nuisance tolerance.

                                        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                        Suunto Vertical all black
                                        Wife : S9PP
                                        SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                        Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                          Łukasz Szmigiel @Mff73
                                          last edited by 10 Apr 2024, 11:54

                                          @Mff73 I find it problematic not because it’s there, but because it’s another screen to cycle.

                                          The workaround that I have for being unable to cycle workout screens to the left is to have just two of them and no navigation (if I don’t intend to use it). This way I either see first or the second screen upon middle button press. Or one S+ if I (rarely) use it.

                                          It’s the same as being unable to disable the vertical navigation screen, which is strangely glued to the navigation if the route is active.

                                          S9PP 2.40.44

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