Suunto Ocean general discussion
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@diogao13 said in Suunto Ocean general discussion:
@svenbrnn said in Suunto Ocean general discussion:
- the worse thing: when i dive in germanies lakes i usally use a 7mm half dry neopren. However since my arm is already quite big the normal strep with 230mm won’t fit anymore after adding 14mm more to my arm’s diameter, for the D5 there was a strap extention for dry suits available but due to the D5 having a 24mm and the Ocean having only 22mm thats not compatible. Will there be a 22mm extention for the ocean?
Greetings
SvenAfter reading this, I bought a 22mm extension strap for dive, but it doesn’t fit well. Suunto strap size is strange. The strap is 22mm at the connection portion, while is 24mm on its length.
Can you please post a picture of your problem?
as far as I can see, the only official solution is the extension strap 22mm (compatible with the D4i), and by some logic the full scuba length strap for the D5 (24mm) would not fit.
as you noticed, the Ocean is declared as 22mm, but that’s just a groove, the strap is 24mm wide along its entire length.
And the straps for the D5 are defined as 24mm and they are through the “flat” groove and are 24mm wide along their entire length (at least that’s what I concluded from the pictures).
They did a great job of making the straps incompatible with each other
It’s really sad that a diving watch can’t be used for diving out of the box, (slightly thicker hand, 7mm semi-dry suit + gloves), but you need to determine what you need to buy in order to use the watch normally.
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See the original strap:
Connection portion width
Strap widthI believe D4i will fit, since the extension strap is full 24mm.
@dreammaster said in Suunto Ocean general discussion:
They did a great job of making the straps incompatible with each other
It’s really sad that a diving watch can’t be used for diving out of the box, (slightly thicker hand, 7mm semi-dry suit + gloves), but you need to determine what you need to buy in order to use the watch normally.
I agree
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What 22mm extension strap you bought that doesnt fit well? For D4i (OEM) or some 3rd party manufactured? (Aliexpress etc).
Can you take picture of that extension conected to original SO strap?
Thanks in advance
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@dreammaster @diogao13 why don’t you open a separate thread to discuss straps?
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@isazi, can you move these last conversations to a new thread?
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Anyone knows when will the 2.35.34 update come to Ocean?
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Bought Suunto Ocean & Pod to replace an ageing Suunto D4i & SPG as a wristwatch sized dive computer and pressure gauge.
I don’t want the sports, GPS and health tracking stuff and so turned off everything like that I could find in the menus. It took about 30 minutes to load a few of the maps and I haven’t bothered to look at them since. I set the dual time for my home zone and on flying I used the “airplane mode”. On landing and connecting to my iPhone again the time zones changed as expected.
For diving I changed the safety stop to 4 mins (conservative from the usual 3) and the start of dive depth to 1m (from the default 1.2m) and added a 100 BAR pressure alarm (a 50 alarm is preloaded and quite rightly can’t be deleted).
I have now completed 21 dives on different Nitrox mixes. It takes just seconds to change the EAN value after checking the gas before a dive. The Pod connected every time and stayed connected without fail. At the end of dive the watch synced the dive log to my iPhone when they were close together again.
The battery lasted all week on a 19 dive liveaboard. The AMOLED screen is easy to read in poor viz and at night. The core information is just what you need to see and the choice of Tank Pressure or “other stuff”, easy to navigate with single button presses while diving. The alarms work well underwater and did not seem to bother other divers, and the safety stop count down and changes from NDL to Deco time and back again are seamless.
As a dive computer for Air/Nitrox on single tanks or manifold twins for divers who don’t use a compass (whether they carry it or not) it is excellent. So that is well over 90% of all dives and divers. It is not suitable for side mount (independent twins), trimix or CCR and does not claim to be – and it is about half the price of computers that are.
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Guys , I have a question. I’m running with Ocean and it measures cadence like i’m on a bicycle, it must be in steps per minute, but its in evolutions per minute …
Trying to find how to turn it.
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@Maximfreediver running cadence is always the full period from right foot to right foot.
Has always been like this in all Suunto watches.
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@Egika I see. I used Garmin , they do it in steps per minute
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@Maximfreediver Usually just multiply by 2 if you need the step cadence
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@Maximfreediver yes, different philosophies.
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I upgraded from the S9PP to the Ocean pretty much when it came out. I really like it except for a couple of things. I probably would have gone for the Vertical Titanium Solar if it were not for the fact that I’m a casual diver as well.
My absolute biggest complaint is that the firmware shuts off the display during workouts to prevent burn in and to save power. To me this is false economy and really is inconvenient. The two places where this is extremely annoying is when I’m doing some sort of timed workout like streching I have an interval set for holding an exercise for 30s or a minute and the display cuts out and I don’t know how much time I have. The other place where this makes the watch practically useless is when I want to do bike ride and have the watch on the handlebars. The display cuts off I can’t just glance down to see how fast I’m going, what my HR is. This is just broken behaviour. The display shouldat least have the option to stay on when exercising. I’ve gone back to using the S9PP for the kinds of workouts where I need the display to stay on. However, Suunto really doesn’t make it convenient to switch back and forth between watches.
I wish that the diving firmware was separate from the multisport firmware so that the watch could keep pace with the other multisport watches like the vertical while still undergoing the extra testing needed for a safety device like a dive computer. I really would like ZoneSense…
A notably missing feature is no Dive planner either in app or in the watch.
When diving at altitude you must set the altitude manually – why? The watch knows your altitude plus it should use your previous altitude during the day when computing the NDL. e.g. if you start the day at sea level then travel to 2000m for a dive, the watch should automatically factor that in to the dissolved nitrogen.
I saw on a picture somewhere a tide guide as one of the watch face complications but I haven’t found it yet. This is one of my feature requests.
On the map there are no numbers on topo lines. However, if you zoom out to get context to figure out which way is up, the topo lines disappear. I think that they could do something like render the topo line with a shaded edge showing which way is up. As it is, it is really hard to use.
When doing structured workouts, I think it would be better if they used the ascent and descent widget for diving and color to tell you when your HR, Power, or pace is above or below set targets. Currently they use the arc to show you your HR zone. I think it would be more useful during structured workouts if they used the outer arc to show the time until the end of that workout segment. This would be very much like how the watch works in dive mode.
I would really like to be able to set my altitude by reference to the local air pressure reading from the met office.
I wish the watch would send a notification that popped up on my phone when the watch completed charging.
I wish that you could set intensity zones in the app rather than just in the watch and that these intensity zones would transfer over when you move from watch to watch.
Regarding watch band I think it would be nice if they included a normal exercise lighter weight band with the watch in addition to the very heavy duty long length diving band. I bought one after the fact. Make it a bundle or something. The diving band is just too long, and heavy for daily use.
I would like to see some new HW Accessories:
- A USB-C charging disc, that I could plug any old USB-C cable into vs. the little disc with the pig tail. Practically everything I have is USB-C these days.
- A new dive transmitter which automatically detects O2 content for Nitrox diving. The watch uses this to set NDL and MOD.
- An advanced new dive transmitter which automatically detects both O2 and H2 content in breathing gas. From what I understand this can be done with an ultrasonic sensor.
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@Ben-Woodard I think with this features I would also buy the Ocean
. Maybe some of them will arrive with newer software. AOD, altitude for diving and tide info should not be a big problem to implement and would be really helpful -
@Ben-Woodard have you checked if you have AoD turned off in your Display settings? I have noticed that if it is turned off, the display also turns off during activities but with it on, the display stays on.
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@altcmd yes I’ve tried it with the Always on Display. The same problem. This is my biggest annoyance with the watch.
It is most annoying when I’m cycling but also when I’m doing stretches or SuuntoPlus workouts where an activity is timed and I don’t want to change position but still watch the display count down.
I understand that Suunto knows about the problem. I hope they fix it in the next firmware release.
It is taking a while to update the firmware to support ZoneSense on the watch but sometimes it does show up in the app. That is another in thing I am looking forward to in the next firmware release but since it is a dive computer firmware releases need more testing and come more slowly.
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@Ben-Woodard double check the AoD settings as they are activity specific. In each activity, you have to adjust the settings for AoD. Not sure if Ocean has some disparity with Race and Race S but the AoD setting in sports profile is independent of the general AoD watch setting.
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@altcmd Where would these sport specific AoD settings be?
There is the general AoD in the watch which is under Settings - General - Display. There the AoD is just a simple (on/off) with nothing associating it with a sport.For a sport specific mode I would expect it either in the menu when you start the sport mode’s exercise options. I would think that it would be under “Battery Mode” or maybe under a new separate item like “Display” but I don’t see it anywhere just: Battery Mode, Navigation, Map, SuuntoPlus, Intensity Zones, Target, GPS, Wrist HR, Sensors, intervals, Autolap, Voice feedback Media Controls, Autopause, feeling. Or it would be a checkbox when you make a custom sport mode.
BTW I think that they should move Structured Workouts out of SuuntoPlus with the apps and then make a Workout menu with:
Intensity Zones (on/off)
Target [meaning simple target]
Intervals [meaning simple intervals]
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@Ben-Woodard when you go in to an activity, check the activity settings before starting the activity. There is a display setting there and within that is buried the said AoD setting. This has to be set one time for each activity.
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@altcmd Nope. The Ocean doesn’t have that in the current firmware. Under each activity type there are only.
- Battery Mode,
- Navigation,
- Map,
- SuuntoPlus,
- Intensity Zones,
- Target,
- GPS,
- Wrist HR,
- Sensors,
- intervals,
- Autolap,
- Voice feedback
- Media Controls,
- Autopause,
- feeling.
No Display item on the Ocean in 2.36.18 which is the latest when I’m writing this…
