Reviews
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In German and more an overview than a review: https://youtu.be/lE5bfnq3C7s?si=nL43rD0KNOeB29_l
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One more in German: https://youtu.be/-K5O7PMNeR4?si=_0TrDkQwKDJyYwTh
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@duffman19 correct, press middle forward, long press middle backwards.
So how do we access the activity options menu now that a long press of the middle button cycles backwards? I know, I know. Wait a (few) day(s) and all my questions will be answered.
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@duffman19 long press bottom button
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@isazi and so on to the lock shortcut…
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and so on to the lock shortcut…
Hehe! My next question as well. I assume it’ll be listed in the activity options menu?
(Thanks, @isazi! Apparently we need to know how to use the new FW ASAP! No time for field testing.)
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@duffman19 you’ll find lock in that same menu
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Awesome watch well done Suunto ! I have the 9PeakPro Titanium and I really envoy the compactness, lightness and comfort of this watch. Especially withe teh microfiber wristband.
One suggestion to increase sales on the suunto website: sell the watch and band separately so we chose the one band we actually want. Maybe do it with the titan version so it become more “personal”.
At present I will have to pay additional 60€ for the microfiber band I love wich is heafty priced … while I will not use the default one !
Because of that I am all reluctant to buy the titanium version that is expected to be 100€ more expensive, for a 7g saving. Really no Saphire at that +100€ pricepoint ?
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@LoïcMichel said in Reviews:
sell the watch and band separately so we chose the one band we actually want
Actually you can (not sure about the new race s) customize your watch
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@sartoric Yes from what I see it is possible for the vertical with only +10€ for teh microfiber that is super cool !
BUT not the Race nor the RaceS … that is too bad…
2 weeks and no return is the "price " to pay for that custom so maybe it is not a crazy success…
BTW +100€ for titan is excessive but +100 for solar is nut to me ! I guess they managed to sell some unit … some rich people buying ego boost… (or just trying to lighten their wrist ?)
Among review the “Glass VS saphir” battle came up, di you guys have experience scratching glass badly ? I have allways got saphire on my watch so this
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@LoïcMichel said in Reviews:
BTW +100€ for titan is excessive but +100 for solar is nut to me ! I guess they managed to sell some unit … some rich people buying ego boost… (or just trying to lighten their wrist ?)
Solar gives you +20 hours of battery
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@LoïcMichel Titanium is also hypoallergenic which is a benefit to some.
From manufacturing it is not as easy to machine titanium compared to steel, so the cost to make goes up. Putting photovoltaic in a watch takes care and specific circuitry to prevent battery overloading, so the cost goes up… the sum of each of these will cause the price of manufacturing to go up.
I would not consider myself rich nor ego driven but I can certainly justify the additional cost for including titanium and solar on a watch based on my above statements.
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@isazi whoa tahnks that is substantial indeed ! I guess this gets theautonomy crazy long.
The fact is that I do ultra of several days in harsh mountain without mush electric plugs so I am right in the target market for such function. However, in those “adventures” I carry a battery for safety and reload my phone while eating/sleeping so I don’t mind charging my S9PP. I don’t get why people refuse to reload during multidays outings, sure they sleep !
What I would like today is a lighter shorter charging cable and maybe better battery alert/tuning while on the run.Another fact is that I started with the ambit3 so I guess I got used to reloading in the bush. After enjoying the comfort of S9PP and its “good enough” autonomy I have grown critical of super beefy & pricy watches in the sake of holy autonomy. Today I see these as an “old constraint we overcome and I don’t regret”.
(Plus I love bashing luxury simply because other people starve.)Why not putting these solar cells on amoled and smaller watches that would benefit more from an autonomy boost ? Is there such a size challenge ? Maybe competitors did it ?
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@Todd-Danielczyk said in Reviews:
I can certainly justify the additional cost for including titanium and solar on a watch based on my above statements.
Never doubt it is more expensive but my criticism is about the amplitude of the uprice: 100€ . I can buy heavier titanium cookware very well finished and manufactured in decent paying countries for so much less.
Reading you I better understand the trickyness for the manufacturing to add these solar cells hence a labor uprice.
In the end these “overpriced segment” subsidize the lower price offer as their higher margin contribute more to the manufacturer’s benefit.
To you the saphir case is similar ? I guess it is just the same on assembly line and we can buy saphir watches for less than 50 so the saphir production cost is not so big.
I have read that saphir synthesis is highly crabon emitting due to energy, I wonder how it impacts the Carbon footprint of wtaches. Would be curious to know more of the contributions to the watch footprint, maybe materials mater more than the electronics in it ?
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@LoïcMichel I think it is similar to most things, applying the value to an item.
I did that with my mountain bike. The bike came in 3 different variants: frame was the same but components were different. I could not justify the cost difference between the low end and high end builds as the high end didn’t have exactly what I wanted.
For me, I bought the lowest end and built the bike to the specifications I wanted, which in the end cost me about the same as the high end bike. We put value where we see it. For me, the price for solar and titanium were reasonable for my watch. I do not do any water sports activities so the Ocean doesn’t fit my needs (but it is certainly a BEAUTFIUL watch!).
I wear my watch on my right wrist, so a rotatable crown is actually a feature I do not particularly like, it is awkward for me to use. Most people love the Race’s crown, for me I don’t. I do not value it, therefore I couldn’t see buying a watch for this feature.
I love the fact we are given options, that is very unique in this marketspace, where we have different choices to choose from.
As for sapphire it certainly takes more energy to manufacture. They make a billet of corundum and then cut wafers out of it. Pretty cool process to see it grown as single crystal (EFG being my favorite to see). Now where that energy comes from makes a difference. Coal plants versus hydrothermal or hydroelectrical power has different impact. Not all energy comes from the same source.
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@Todd-Danielczyk said in Reviews:
I wear my watch on my right wrist, so a rotatable crown is actually a feature I do not particularly like, it is awkward for me to use.
Suunto could consider to allow people wearing the watch on the right wrist (likely left-handed people) to be able to rotate the display by 180°, so they could wore the watch upside-down, with the buttons and crown on the correct side (the two part of strap can be easily swapped). I guess it should require a minimal software modification
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@Stefano-M64 said in Reviews:
@Todd-Danielczyk said in Reviews:
I wear my watch on my right wrist, so a rotatable crown is actually a feature I do not particularly like, it is awkward for me to use.
Suunto could consider to allow people wearing the watch on the right wrist (likely left-handed people) to be able to rotate the display by 180°, so they could wore the watch upside-down, with the buttons and crown on the correct side (the two part of strap can be easily swapped). I guess it should require a minimal software modification
we have had this discussion already several times in this forum.
It is not only about the display and strap. When worn on the right wrist, the barometric sensor will be facing head wind and thus messing altitude readings… So actually you should ask for a mirrored casebtw.: I am constantly wearing two watches and am very comfortable with using the rotating crown with my left thumb.
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we have had this discussion already several times in this forum.
It is not only about the display and strap. When worn on the right wrist, the barometric sensor will be facing head wind and thus messing altitude readings… So actually you should ask for a mirrored casebtw.: I am constantly wearing two watches and am very comfortable with using the rotating crown with my left thumb.
sorry, I’ve missed that!
however, I’m sot sure about such barometric sensor considerations, it can face the head wind even when the watch is wore on the left wrist since people walking or running usually keep their arm(s) oscillating back and forth along the body, and the sensor hole is facing the head wind all the time. And what if the wind comes from other direction? relative velocity of a moving person is usually smaller than the wind speed. I would say that the best place for the barometric sensor hole would be on the side opposite to the buttons…
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@Stefano-M64 Suunto has been changing the baro sensor hole constantly. A3P hat it on the underside at the top. Vertival and Rave have it at the bottom (thus facing your body when worn on the left arm and facing forward when worn on the right arm).
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(thus facing your body when worn on the left arm and facing forward when worn on the right arm).
Isn’t always facing your body ?
