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    thailon Bronze Member @The_77
    last edited by 16 Jul 2024, 09:06

    @The_77 the same for me 🙂


    T3c, Quest, Ambit3 Peak, 9PP, Vertical

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      Iggge
      last edited by Iggge 16 Jul 2024, 21:05

      I may been searching in the wrong places, but where can I turn off GLONASS? Just want to use GPS + Galileo.
      Can’t find it and don’t know if it has something with the new update to do

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        Александр Даниленко @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by Александр Даниленко 16 Jul 2024, 22:12

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos in case you actively use the watch for training it is not good idea to wait full watch discharge. You will need to skip training, or you risking to have watch discharged during training session and loose training data.

        Moreover, discharging to 0 I believe not a good thing for Li-ion (which doesn’t have memory effect btw).

        🤔

        Suunto Race S

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          Александр Даниленко @Richard Thygesen
          last edited by 16 Jul 2024, 22:18

          @Richard-Thygesen same thing on my S9PP!

          Suunto Race S

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Александр Даниленко
            last edited by 17 Jul 2024, 08:45

            @Александр-Даниленко You dont have to! just use it normally.

            I am not sure why all this fuzz.

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              Elipsus Silver Members
              last edited by 17 Jul 2024, 10:00

              Discharging to zero isn’t about memory effect, its for battery managment calibration, modern battery system use “fuel gauge” method to estimate remaining capacity, so, they don’t necessarly look at voltage, because lithium voltage is very stable for most of the discharge cycle, so hard to estimate remaining capacity:
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              instead they look at the capacity in/capacity out, , but this method allows drift (you look at rate of charge and discharge, coulomb counting), so discharging /charging fully (or almost fully) allows to reset the gauge to its “true 0”.

              And, moreover, if the gauge value is reset during a firmware update, which would make sense, the battery is estimated using voltage thus not as precise until the gauge is reset.

              If you are interested in it, there is this paper from Texas Instrument for a Battery managment system for wearables (not the one for our watches, but the system is most probably very similar :
              https://www.ti.com/lit/ug/tidub09/tidub09.pdf?ts=1721210050652&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F

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                Egika Platinum Member @Elipsus
                last edited by 17 Jul 2024, 10:17

                @Elipsus exactly

                t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                  sartoric Moderator
                  last edited by sartoric 17 Jul 2024, 10:31

                  Moreover it’s just a “do it once” not a “do it always”
                  Charge estimation it’s not black magic 😉

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                    false Bronze Member @sartoric
                    last edited by 17 Jul 2024, 11:03

                    It’s not black magic

                    Or is it magic? A few days ago, a guy rolled back to a previous firmware and instantly got normal battery life. How can such cases be explained?

                    Moreover it’s just a “do it once” not a “do it always”

                    I think it’s more like “do it every time after an update.” This is based on my observations of the number of complaints about battery life after each update here. Moreover, it didn’t help in my case, and I still have around 2/3 of the battery life I used to have before one of the previous updates. By the way, I was using my watch for around 10 months without any “calibration stuff” with fantastic battery efficiency. Then I got 2.30.32, and boom, out of nowhere – battery drainage. It hasn’t been fixed for 8 months now.

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                      Mff73 @false
                      last edited by 17 Jul 2024, 11:45

                      @false
                      My very personal opinion about FW downgrade. It is not just a FW update at inverse. It is (not experienced with new Ota FWs, but quite a lot with old zips) a very deep hard reset and a full FW installation, like full wipe and clean install).
                      Thus, my theory about “downgrading has solved issue, thus new FW is faulty” is that, if its the case, maybe the new firmware in itself is not the root issue, but maybe the update process or restoring settings, or… which may cause issues to some and not others.
                      Shortly, I don’t know really 😁, but, for those who downgraded and feel better with old FW, it could be worth trying (assuming you are willing to test) : downgrade, do not set up too much things, and just re-update and see.
                      Hey, it is just one of my theories. 😋
                      I have not issue, so nothing to validate on my own side, I would have tested myself.

                      Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                      Suunto Vertical all black
                      Wife : S9PP
                      SA: Always the latest beta :)
                      Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                        Egika Platinum Member @Mff73
                        last edited by 17 Jul 2024, 12:34

                        @Mff73 a FW change does not wipe all settings. Some are reset like the autopause, but everything else is kept.

                        You are completely right in saying that some effects are independent of the FW and some things just seem to be.

                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                        Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @false
                          last edited by 18 Jul 2024, 10:56

                          @false the battery drainage actually has been fixed in the latest firmware. Just do a full circle charge as discussed.

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                            darxmurf Platinum Member
                            last edited by 18 Jul 2024, 11:43

                            I still have some HR Sensor issues. When leaving the watch on a table for a few hours, sometimes it stops the sensor. Putting the watch on charger re-activates it, a reboot too.

                            https://www.instagram.com/darxmurf/ - https://www.instagram.com/omch.ch/

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                              false Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 18 Jul 2024, 13:13

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                              has been fixed

                              Do you know if it was the first fix of that type?

                              Anyway, I’ve just sold my 9pp and I hope my next watch won’t have such problems. Deciding between race and 265/955

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @false
                                last edited by 18 Jul 2024, 13:53

                                @false yeah I know. It was related to the map / navigation screen.

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                                  Kaiphi @darxmurf
                                  last edited by 18 Jul 2024, 14:06

                                  @darxmurf I had the same problem with my 9PP. I had to restart it every time. The downgrade finally helped. But maybe not a solution for everyone

                                  Suunto 9 Peak Pro
                                  Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar

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                                    Ars Vitae Bronze Member
                                    last edited by 18 Jul 2024, 14:23

                                    During exercise (running), only the map interface beeps when the guide message display ends. Can this beep be removed or can it be set by itself? A great feature has been added to automatically center my location on the map with settings after what time it should happen. Is there an idea to create a personal setting for the time the guide displays during the exercise?

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                                      false Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by 18 Jul 2024, 14:24

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Nice, thanks for the info

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                                        Tomas Fejfar Bronze Member
                                        last edited by 19 Jul 2024, 06:29

                                        I noticed that synchronization of pool swimming is not correct. Watch vs. application: 450 vs. 400 m and 1000 vs 975 m. In both cases I stopped during swimming. Yesterday I did 1050 without break and synchronization is correct. Before update I never noticed issue.

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                                          Łukasz Szmigiel
                                          last edited by 19 Jul 2024, 08:07

                                          I’ll gently leave it here and, immediately after posting, dash away like a madman 😉

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                                          S9PP 2.40.38

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