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    • thailonT Offline
      thailon Bronze Member @The_77
      last edited by

      @The_77 the same for me 🙂


      T3c, Quest, Ambit3 Peak, 9PP, Vertical

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        Iggge
        last edited by Iggge

        I may been searching in the wrong places, but where can I turn off GLONASS? Just want to use GPS + Galileo.
        Can’t find it and don’t know if it has something with the new update to do

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        • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
          Александр Даниленко @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by Александр Даниленко

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos in case you actively use the watch for training it is not good idea to wait full watch discharge. You will need to skip training, or you risking to have watch discharged during training session and loose training data.

          Moreover, discharging to 0 I believe not a good thing for Li-ion (which doesn’t have memory effect btw).

          🤔

          Suunto Race S

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          • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
            Александр Даниленко @Richard Thygesen
            last edited by

            @Richard-Thygesen same thing on my S9PP!

            Suunto Race S

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Александр Даниленко
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              @Александр-Даниленко You dont have to! just use it normally.

              I am not sure why all this fuzz.

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                Elipsus Silver Members
                last edited by

                Discharging to zero isn’t about memory effect, its for battery managment calibration, modern battery system use “fuel gauge” method to estimate remaining capacity, so, they don’t necessarly look at voltage, because lithium voltage is very stable for most of the discharge cycle, so hard to estimate remaining capacity:
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                instead they look at the capacity in/capacity out, , but this method allows drift (you look at rate of charge and discharge, coulomb counting), so discharging /charging fully (or almost fully) allows to reset the gauge to its “true 0”.

                And, moreover, if the gauge value is reset during a firmware update, which would make sense, the battery is estimated using voltage thus not as precise until the gauge is reset.

                If you are interested in it, there is this paper from Texas Instrument for a Battery managment system for wearables (not the one for our watches, but the system is most probably very similar :
                https://www.ti.com/lit/ug/tidub09/tidub09.pdf?ts=1721210050652&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F

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                  Egika Platinum Member @Elipsus
                  last edited by

                  @Elipsus exactly

                  t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                  Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                  • sartoricS Offline
                    sartoric Moderator
                    last edited by sartoric

                    Moreover it’s just a “do it once” not a “do it always”
                    Charge estimation it’s not black magic 😉

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                      false Bronze Member @sartoric
                      last edited by

                      It’s not black magic

                      Or is it magic? A few days ago, a guy rolled back to a previous firmware and instantly got normal battery life. How can such cases be explained?

                      Moreover it’s just a “do it once” not a “do it always”

                      I think it’s more like “do it every time after an update.” This is based on my observations of the number of complaints about battery life after each update here. Moreover, it didn’t help in my case, and I still have around 2/3 of the battery life I used to have before one of the previous updates. By the way, I was using my watch for around 10 months without any “calibration stuff” with fantastic battery efficiency. Then I got 2.30.32, and boom, out of nowhere – battery drainage. It hasn’t been fixed for 8 months now.

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                        Mff73 @false
                        last edited by

                        @false
                        My very personal opinion about FW downgrade. It is not just a FW update at inverse. It is (not experienced with new Ota FWs, but quite a lot with old zips) a very deep hard reset and a full FW installation, like full wipe and clean install).
                        Thus, my theory about “downgrading has solved issue, thus new FW is faulty” is that, if its the case, maybe the new firmware in itself is not the root issue, but maybe the update process or restoring settings, or… which may cause issues to some and not others.
                        Shortly, I don’t know really 😁, but, for those who downgraded and feel better with old FW, it could be worth trying (assuming you are willing to test) : downgrade, do not set up too much things, and just re-update and see.
                        Hey, it is just one of my theories. 😋
                        I have not issue, so nothing to validate on my own side, I would have tested myself.

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                        • EgikaE Offline
                          Egika Platinum Member @Mff73
                          last edited by

                          @Mff73 a FW change does not wipe all settings. Some are reset like the autopause, but everything else is kept.

                          You are completely right in saying that some effects are independent of the FW and some things just seem to be.

                          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                          Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @false
                            last edited by

                            @false the battery drainage actually has been fixed in the latest firmware. Just do a full circle charge as discussed.

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                            • darxmurfD Offline
                              darxmurf Platinum Member
                              last edited by

                              I still have some HR Sensor issues. When leaving the watch on a table for a few hours, sometimes it stops the sensor. Putting the watch on charger re-activates it, a reboot too.

                              https://www.instagram.com/darxmurf/ - https://www.instagram.com/omch.ch/

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                                false Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                has been fixed

                                Do you know if it was the first fix of that type?

                                Anyway, I’ve just sold my 9pp and I hope my next watch won’t have such problems. Deciding between race and 265/955

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                                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @false
                                  last edited by

                                  @false yeah I know. It was related to the map / navigation screen.

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                                    Kaiphi @darxmurf
                                    last edited by

                                    @darxmurf I had the same problem with my 9PP. I had to restart it every time. The downgrade finally helped. But maybe not a solution for everyone

                                    Suunto 9 Peak Pro
                                    Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar

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                                    • Ars VitaeA Offline
                                      Ars Vitae Bronze Member
                                      last edited by

                                      During exercise (running), only the map interface beeps when the guide message display ends. Can this beep be removed or can it be set by itself? A great feature has been added to automatically center my location on the map with settings after what time it should happen. Is there an idea to create a personal setting for the time the guide displays during the exercise?

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                                        false Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Nice, thanks for the info

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                                        • Tomas FejfarT Offline
                                          Tomas Fejfar Bronze Member
                                          last edited by

                                          I noticed that synchronization of pool swimming is not correct. Watch vs. application: 450 vs. 400 m and 1000 vs 975 m. In both cases I stopped during swimming. Yesterday I did 1050 without break and synchronization is correct. Before update I never noticed issue.

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                                          • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                            Łukasz Szmigiel
                                            last edited by

                                            I’ll gently leave it here and, immediately after posting, dash away like a madman 😉

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                                            S9PP 2.40.38

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