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  • B Offline
    BrunoH Gold Members @Mff73
    last edited by BrunoH 25 Sept 2024, 06:52

    @Mff73 I used a Norwegian University (NTNU) max HR calculator which takes into account the age, weight and how tall I am. According to that my max HR is 176 and that’s what I entered in my Vertical, but obviously in real life I can get over 176. My resting HR is set to 65, which is the value when I am sitting peacefully.

    All the zone limits in between are the default values from Suunto.

    max 176 100%
    Z5 starts at 153 87%
    Z4 starts at 144 81%
    Z3 starts at 136 77%
    Z2 starts at 127 71%

    Have I configured something wrong?

    Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
    Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
    Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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      SvenSchroeter @BrunoH
      last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 07:04

      @BrunoH I had some trouble getting my head around all of this… So I started reading some of the material on the suunto website.

      https://www.suunto.com/it-it/sports/News-Articles-container-page/Figure-out-your-training-zones-and-supercharge-your-fitness/

      https://www.suunto.com/it-it/sports/News-Articles-container-page/know-your-resting-and-max-heart-rates/

      All in all… the generic formula does not work well. You have to make personalised stress tests to get the limits. Now with ZoneSense there is the argument that you can use this new inovative feature, and it will start reporting the thresholds for you without the need to perform and put yourself through the testing process.

      Suunto Vertical Ti Solar (Daily)
      Suunto Race (Wife Daily)
      Retired: Suunto Ambit3 / Ambit / Core

      https://www.strava.com/athletes/142980701

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        Prenj @BrunoH
        last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 07:06

        @BrunoH
        If the HR detected by the watch is correct, then your max HR should be at least 185 as you peaked over the 180 mark a few times. Those calculators are not that good at this. It’s hard to tell your real max HR without the lab test, but 185 should probably be close.

        Suunto Race

        B 1 Reply Last reply 25 Sept 2024, 07:12 Reply Quote 3
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          BrunoH Gold Members @Prenj
          last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 07:12

          @Prenj @SvenSchroeter @Mff73
          Thank you everybody, I will adjust my max HR and the zones accordingly. I’ll try again in a few days.

          Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
          Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
          Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

          S M 2 Replies Last reply 25 Sept 2024, 07:19 Reply Quote 1
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            SvenSchroeter @BrunoH
            last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 07:19

            @BrunoH I got a little stressed about all this at the beginning… but stopped worrying about my MAX Hr, and looked more closely at the LTHR value and then worked backwards from there.

            I based my LTHR on hard run efforts at 5km and 10km distances (as I repeat these periodically as part of my standard training approach).

            The new innovative ZoneSense feature (Suunto +App) is giving me relatively close LIMITS to what I had set so all in all it seems to add up.

            Plus I got the Hr Belt from Suunto to try and get the most accurate readings possible.

            PS. I am a Male / 38Years old / LTHR = 165bpm (approx) and have a 182MAX HR according to the formula… but do not even come close to that during maxed out efforts (measuring with the HR belt).

            But even if the data is not absolute, because there will always be some error in the measurements (we do not carry medical devices on our wrists) as long as it is repeatable we can use it as a baseline for general imrpvement metrics. Which is the goal of everyone I think… Personal improvement both physically and mentaly.

            Have a nice day everyone.

            Suunto Vertical Ti Solar (Daily)
            Suunto Race (Wife Daily)
            Retired: Suunto Ambit3 / Ambit / Core

            https://www.strava.com/athletes/142980701

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              Mff73 @BrunoH
              last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 07:33

              @BrunoH
              as @SvenSchroeter suggested, if you are using a chest strap with RR capabilities, you could try ZoneSense analysis while changing your zone.
              Maybe set them as appropriately as possible with reasonable max HR according to your recent real max reached (you real max should probably be little more, but …) and then look at what zonesense is “telling” you. After a couple of trainings, (even if Zonesense is still quite unknown 😉 ) it might give you its indication of what YOUR zones could be. Up to you to correlate then with your feelings during activity ,etc… and tweak everything (if not doing real effort tests).
              Enjoy your next fit journey.

              Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
              Suunto Vertical all black
              Wife : S9PP
              SA: Always the latest beta :)
              Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                DirkM
                last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 08:44

                There may be a bug with the sounds for messages.

                When I switch my race s tones/alarm to vibration, I still get a beep for incoming messages.

                Or have I just not found the right setting?

                Suunto Race S ! Suunto 9 Peak ! Suunto Spartan Sport Wrist HR ! Suunto Ambit2R

                E 1 Reply Last reply 25 Sept 2024, 08:59 Reply Quote 0
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                  Egika Platinum Member @DirkM
                  last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 08:59

                  @DirkM in addition to switching vibration on, also open the tones menu and set it to “all off”

                  t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                  Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

                  D 1 Reply Last reply 25 Sept 2024, 09:27 Reply Quote 1
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                    DirkM @Egika
                    last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 09:27

                    @Egika That was my mistake. Thank you. But now I also get a vibration when I use the crown, which as far as I can see can’t be turned off like the sound for the buttons.

                    I think it would be nice to only have a vibration for the silent notification for incoming messages.

                    Suunto Race S ! Suunto 9 Peak ! Suunto Spartan Sport Wrist HR ! Suunto Ambit2R

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                      Александр Даниленко @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 19:46

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos initially when this screen was working properly, it wasn’t useless.

                      But now it is broken!

                      Before it was showing the moment, when you stop, so you could see your rest time (in the way I draw). But now it doesn’t (same with new 2.37.48 update).

                      Suunto Race S

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                        sebchastang Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by 12 Oct 2024, 07:05

                        @Brad_Olwin said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

                        @Tami999 Not a bug, these are design changes. I believe that color will be coming to some of the complications, this is the start and will make watch faces faster and easier to develop so they are not tied to firmware updates.

                        👍 good to know there is still chance to see design improvements and get back the original solar harvest complication icon (as shown on Suunto official pics ☺ https://www.suunto.com/globalassets/productimages/suunto-vertical/suunto-vertical-titanium-solar-canyon/02_suuntovertical_titaniumsolarcanyon-perspective-c-14-watch-face.jpg?height=900&format=jpg)

                        Suunto Vertical
                        Suunto Traverse

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                          Antoine Bronze Member
                          last edited by 12 Oct 2024, 10:44

                          Today i had a bug: when navigating in complications parameters for K14 display, my suunto vertical has restarted alone…

                          Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                            Tami999 Silver Members @Antoine
                            last edited by 12 Oct 2024, 13:29

                            @Antoine said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

                            Today i had a bug: when navigating in complications parameters for K14 display, my suunto vertical has restarted alone…

                            Happened to me too when I was testing new watchfaces twice. I cant remember which one I had during two time crashes, but its highly possible it was this new one K14. Gonna test and edit post.

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                              The_77 Silver Members
                              last edited by 12 Oct 2024, 15:10

                              I had a bug with alarms yesterday morning, but there’s no way I’m going to replicate it.

                              I woke up to the alarm, and mashed buttons to turn it off, but it continued going on for two minutes whilst on the normal watch face. Alarms were at 7:00 & 7:01.

                              God knows how this is replicable but something was up.

                              Suunto Spartan Trainer Wrist HR / 9PP Refurb

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                                JanJ1968
                                last edited by 13 Oct 2024, 08:24

                                Since the last update which was supposed to bring the watchfaces to the store I have tried every single work around that has been suggested: soft and hard reset , deinstall app, since a thousand times, …… nothing helps! I am on iOS with a 9PP and I hate the standard installed faces…. App shows 0/4 faces installed …… Please Suunto take care of this……

                                F 1 Reply Last reply 16 Oct 2024, 10:46 Reply Quote 0
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                                  false Bronze Member @JanJ1968
                                  last edited by 16 Oct 2024, 10:46

                                  @JanJ1968 not sure it can help, but… uninstall some sport apps. As for me, I had to sync my watch (race) for like 4 or 5 times, before I got the result

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