Live location S+ app

Nikolai Simonov

@brechtvb it’s developed with SuuntoPlus SDK which based on ES5

Antoine

@Nikolai-Simonov Big congratulations !!! I was waiting for such feature for years ! Very good job !
Is it possible to parameter the frequency transmission ? Every 1s, 10s, 1min for example ?

maszop

@Nikolai-Simonov Thanks.
It works quite well, the configuration is not too complicated.
Two quick observations:
No easily visible link on the website/in the application to shere/view the location. Unless it is intentional at the initial stage of development so that the traffic and server load are not too high.

Standard OSM maps are difficult to read in mountainous terrain.
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Nikolai Simonov

@Nikolai-Simonov Thanx a lot, glad to hear it!

There’s a setting called “Continuous transmission” in the SuuntoPlus LiveTracking app.

When it’s enabled, the watch sends a location update every second, even if the position hasn’t changed.
When it’s disabled, it only sends data when the location changes which helps save battery. In addition, the battery mode (Performance / Endurance / Tour) set in your workout also affects GPS sampling frequency, so combining both gives you more control. e.g. you can reduce updates to roughly once per minute in low-power modes.

Tieutieu

@Nikolai-Simonov congrats for that app that we were waiting for for a long time !
I’ll test properly soon I hope.
Just to let us know : have you already an idea of battery consumption impact on watch and on phone ?

Nikolai Simonov

@Antoine Thanx for feedback!

The idea was that the person going for a run shares the link themselves (via QR code or directly from the app). But I agree it would definitely be helpful to have a more convenient way to access and share the link from the website as well. That’s something I’d like to improve soon.

As for the map style 100% agree. The default OSM tiles aren’t ideal for mountainous or outdoor terrain. We tried using some paid services with better topographic layers, but they became too expensive once we had more than one active user . So right now I’m looking for topographic data, that we’ll hosted by ourselves.

Nikolai Simonov

@Tieutieu Thanx a lot!

Regarding battery consumption, I haven’t done precise measurements yet, so I can’t give exact numbers. But based on real-world use, the impact seems relatively low, actually lower than I initially expected.

e.g, with my 3y.o. phone (which already has some battery degradation), I managed around 4-5 hours of continuous tracking and battery still had some capacity. I seen some testers have reported up to 6 hours tracks.

That said, it would definitely be interesting to measure this more accurately.

Tieutieu

@Nikolai-Simonov thanks !
Another question : I have read I can launch tracking during exercice.
What if I stop it or if phone loose connection to network ?
Does it need to be launched again in both cases ?
And so I guess it generates another link for tracking ?

safari

@Nikolai-Simonov hello
first of all thank you for the application.
i have completed the first short tests.
the application works very stable. only the altimeter between the watch and the application can be 3-4 m different.
the application can add a go to location feature on maps. (suggestion like Apple find)
as a more advanced level, it can be added as a widget and send the location every 10-15 minutes, not only during the event. (suggestion)
it also takes values such as temperature, I think these can be added to the page.
thanks for your effort

Sascha Domres

Hi, I have been waiting for this function for a really long time, thank you for your commitment. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work for me. iPhone 15 Pro Max and Suunto Ocean…
Device ID Not found

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HQVQi9ZVvSMiRUn38

What could I do wrong?

Nikolai Simonov

Hi @Sascha-Domres From what I can see in the screenshot, it looks like there’s no location data received yet. The live session actually becomes available only after the first location point is sent.

Try starting the workout and wait until the watch gets a GPS signal once that happens, the session should go live and become visible in the web.

Tieutieu

Just small test this morning, it seems great ! I’ll test it more deeply tonight including battery consumption regards.
Are we ok that SA doesn’t need to be active, only live.t app ?

Nikolai Simonov

@safari Thanks so much for the feedback!

Thanx for sharing your ideas!, having a widget could be a very useful feature for both platforms. I’ll look into it.

As for temperature, I’ve been a bit unsure about its reliability. unfortunatelly, the SuuntoPlus platform is quite limited in how many metrics can be shared at once. I’m currently considering removing temperature in favor of more useful metrics like cadence.

Sascha Domres

@Nikolai-Simonov Thank you very much!! That was the solution! Cool that you developed that!

Nikolai Simonov

@Tieutieu You can even use it on a phone that doesn’t have SA installed at all.

Nikolai Simonov

@Sascha-Domres Great that it was a case!
I’ll definitely look into improving the UX to make this part less confusing in the future.

safari

@Nikolai-Simonov @Tieutieu I took a night walk in the dense forest last night. I shared the link with my family. They tracked my current location and most importantly, even my pulse. Useful work

Sascha Domres

@Nikolai-Simonov Strange, the Ocean reports that the maximum number of S-Apps has been reached. But this is not the case. I can’t activate the Livetrack app anymore?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KzCeguX5ySMEVyCx5

Tieutieu

Could it be possible to add a simple « pseudo » field that would be then displayed in tracking screen : not the most common case but on some races with few people to follow, it could be easier to identify the different tracking screens

Tieutieu

@Sascha-Domres I’ve add the same even if I only had one app activated. I unpinned it, pinned live app and pinned again my other app => works