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    Swaddy61 Silver Members @gone troppo
    last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 12:42

    @gone-troppo Have a look in the ‘ZoneSense’ Thread under ‘Suunto App’ (not Sports Apps). It was explained to me clearly there how to find it.

    Sorry, I don’t know how to link other threads here!

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      the_ultraman
      last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 12:56

      It doesn’t show very accurately when running uphill or downhill. It showed the lowest aerobic level when I was running uphill in my zone 4 at 15 percent incline.

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        Richard Thygesen
        last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 13:14

        Really interesting. Sad that I’m unable to use it.
        Haven’t owned a heart rate strap that works for me.

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          TyreseJ4 @Mauerwegler
          last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 17:18

          @Mauerwegler Link?

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            SuuntoR Bronze Member @dmcdmc
            last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 18:46

            @dmcdmc same here after first 11km run. Will have to test some more if it calibrates. I think the data shown on the watch was better reflecting how I felt during the run.

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              althaea35 Bronze Member @the_ultraman
              last edited by althaea35 21 Sept 2024, 19:21

              @the_ultraman

              I found a comment on Facebook from Janne Kallio

              "You have this week received the new Suunto Zonesense analysis. To learn the background, science, examples of this ground breaking tech… spend an hour on our zonesense lecture.

              Note, there has been some weird / different behaviour on real time measurement vs afger analysis in few specifc scenarios, there will be upcoming mobile update which will fix this. There was a bug that awas left on release, but will be fixed soonish."

              https://www.facebook.com/share/p/tAAGoDRCb2PJ96Mf/?mibextid=oFDknk

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                halajos Bronze Member @taziden
                last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 19:48

                @taziden have you had something like this in my post here? https://forum.suunto.com/topic/11713/race-misbehaving-in-multiple-ways

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                  Christoph13 Bronze Member
                  last edited by Christoph13 21 Sept 2024, 20:19

                  To everyone not finding the ZoneSense data in the Suunto App on their iPhones despite seeing the ZoneSense App during the run on the watch:
                  You probably do not have the most up to date iOS app even though you do not see any update offered.

                  To remedy:
                  Don’t rely on automatic updates to all your iPhone apps, it does not work (in this case).
                  Go the the App Store on your iPhone
                  Search for Suunto App (it probably says “Open” but don’t click there)
                  Click on the title “Suunto App”, so the page displays that lets you explore the marketing blurb. Here it most likely will offer you a button saying “update”.

                  Clicking this is what helped me. Now I can choose the Zone DDA values in my recorded runs.

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                    Christoph13 Bronze Member @Christoph13
                    last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 20:27

                    Regarding the real-time use:
                    I am in my tapering phase for a race in about a week’s time. I will probably race by feel but what should the ZoneSense display during a half marathon if I manage to push myself just hard enough? What would I gain compared to say following a combination of pace/HR or Stryd Power?

                    Also, I have done the last five runs or so with my Polar H10 HR belt, and the zones appear to match exactly the ones I calculated based on the last race results (except one that is so far off to be untrustworthy).
                    What kind of training session would help to make ZoneSense more accurate in the time remaining?
                    Thanks

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                      gone troppo Bronze Member @Christoph13
                      last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 20:32

                      @Christoph13 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                      To everyone not finding the ZoneSense data in the Suunto App on their iPhones despite seeing the ZoneSense App during the run on the watch:
                      You probably do not have the most up to date iOS app even though you do not see any update offered.

                      To remedy:
                      Don’t rely on automatic updates to all your iPhone apps, it does not work (in this case).
                      Go the the App Store on your iPhone
                      Search for Suunto App (it probably says “Open” but don’t click there)
                      Click on the title “Suunto App”, so the page displays that lets you explore the marketing blurb. Here it most likely will offer you a button saying “update”.

                      Clicking this is what helped me. Now I can choose the Zone DDA values in my recorded runs.

                      Thank you thank you, you my friend are genius. For people like me who are not so tech savvy explaining it in detail like this was so helpful and worked I now have zone sense on my app thank you

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                        Ze Stuart Gold Members @althaea35
                        last edited by 22 Sept 2024, 02:52

                        @althaea35 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                        @the_ultraman Found a comment on Facebook from Janne Kallio

                        Note, there has been some weird / different behaviour on real time measurement vs afger analysis in few specifc scenarios, there will be upcoming mobile update which will fix this. There was a bug that awas left on release, but will be fixed soonish."

                        https://www.facebook.com/share/p/tAAGoDRCb2PJ96Mf/?mibextid=oFDknk

                        This produced error: NaN when I read it, expected: date, received: vague words.

                        @Raimo-Järvi I believe you are a deity of S+, do you have a date you can share for the fix?

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                          taziden Gold Members @halajos
                          last edited by 22 Sept 2024, 05:49

                          @halajos said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                          @taziden have you had something like this in my post here? https://forum.suunto.com/topic/11713/race-misbehaving-in-multiple-ways

                          Yes, also using Ultra Walking S+app

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                            Christoph13 Bronze Member @gone troppo
                            last edited by 22 Sept 2024, 07:14

                            @gone-troppo Haha, great, I had hoped you would read it as I got stuck exactly like you. No idea why the Suunto App would not be flagged as updatable even when searching for it specifically in the App Store, this caught me (us) by surprise. Glad to hear that it worked for you.

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                              Danny poleg Silver Members
                              last edited by 22 Sept 2024, 07:31

                              I couldn’t find the topic that’s why I’m asking
                              In the RACE watch, I activate structured training and also activate ZONESENS, but when I press “start”, the ZONESENS option does not appear. I checked the training options and in a strange way the ZONESENS was off. I turned it on and still the same problem
                              The watch was reset and it didn’t help - I’d appreciate your help
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                                Christoph13 Bronze Member @Danny poleg
                                last edited by 22 Sept 2024, 07:47

                                @Danny-poleg There appears to be a maximum number of Suunto+ Apps and Suunto Guides that can be active at any one time. If you cannot activate ZoneSense, it helps to deactivate one S+ app or one Suunto guide and try again.

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                                  stromdiddily Gold Members @Christoph13
                                  last edited by stromdiddily 22 Sept 2024, 11:26

                                  @Christoph13 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                  Regarding the real-time use:
                                  I am in my tapering phase for a race in about a week’s time. I will probably race by feel but what should the ZoneSense display during a half marathon if I manage to push myself just hard enough? What would I gain compared to say following a combination of pace/HR or Stryd Power?

                                  Also, I have done the last five runs or so with my Polar H10 HR belt, and the zones appear to match exactly the ones I calculated based on the last race results (except one that is so far off to be untrustworthy).
                                  What kind of training session would help to make ZoneSense more accurate in the time remaining?
                                  Thanks

                                  I would imagine you’re going to see a good amount of time in aerobic slowly progressing into anearobic and eventually v02 max if you finish hard 🙂

                                  The main benefit I suppose would be to maintain whatever zone you’re trying to stay in while leaving room for a strongly pushed finish.

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                                    Christoph13 Bronze Member @stromdiddily
                                    last edited by Christoph13 22 Sept 2024, 14:18

                                    @stromdiddily Thanks. I am always weary of relying on a metric that I have insufficient experience with.
                                    When you are racing, you want to be close to the special mark on your personal fitness scale on that day, but on the correct side. Looking at the handful of runs with Zone DDA data, it looks like I will be racing mostly in the yellow zone (in ZoneSense it is called anaerobic but I suspect what it means is that it is no longer fully aerobic, which is fine).
                                    For the race this probably means to progress mainly through the yellow zone with some excursion into the red during the finish, however long that may be.

                                    BTW, I am seeing some of the weird behaviour reported by others, too, i.e. pace or heart rate go up, ZoneDDA becomes more aerobic,…

                                    I’ll see how the half marathon goes and then take a look at the data again.

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                                      Richard Thygesen
                                      last edited by 22 Sept 2024, 14:25

                                      Totally unusable for me!
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                                        larrybbaker @sartoric
                                        last edited by 22 Sept 2024, 15:28

                                        @sartoric I would think not? the app is on the watch 😕

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                                          sartoric Moderator @larrybbaker
                                          last edited by sartoric 22 Sept 2024, 16:04

                                          @larrybbaker
                                          The S+ app is used to have real time data while recording the activity

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