Software update 2.37.48

[VoiGAS]

@Brad_Olwin Tried it today and you are right. Nearly the same time (4,5 hours) and the battery dropped about 20% with maps on, but most of the time not as the active screen.
Still not the 31hours, but I guess I have to turn them off completly. Same behaviour as before the update - so no changes here

[thanasis]

Post update my OHR is showing waaay higher bpm.

For instance i now have like 65 and it shows 125 at rest…

Very very strange behavior

[Danny poleg]

After the update there is an improvement in the pool count in RACE S
But still can’t tell the difference between freestyle swimming and backstroke

[Kramble]

@SuperFlo75 said in Software update 2.37.48:

I updated my SV on Wednesday at 30% battery load, and it dropped about 9% within three days… without any workout… I think this is a little bit more than before the last update… we will see…

Same for me, between 4 and 5 % per day without activities, a year ago it was around 2 % (sometimes less).
As already said, the little battery drain issue is not fixed yet.

[Antoine]

@Antoine said in Software update 2.37.48:

@SvenSchroeter said in Software update 2.37.48:

@Antoine Am noticing much the same, suunto vertical and in the first 12Hrs I dropped 1% from a full charge (Hr active + blood oxygen), no activity. Now that my day has started and wrist buzz is humming along nicely to the arrival of new emails and msgs… I hope to see less than 5% for today (including a 1hr gps activity).

Same configuration as you.
6% in 36h with one run of 50 minutes.
HR active, blood oxygen, only bip but no buzz, no backlight. No navigation tested yet.

I used suunto vertical solar during trail past weekend with map navigation: autonomy good during activity (computed estimation with 100% is more than 60h of activity).

Today battery has dropped from 61% to 55% in 24h. So 6%. It seems quite too much, no ?
(HR active, blood oxygen, only bip but no buzz, no backlight)

[RaDeck]

Just updating atm to 2.37.48. I’ll be monitoring battery consumption as last update had decreased Battery life. Hope to come back to prior range (9PP - roughly 20 days with full charge - mix use -> 5% per day). With the previous version I was more in the range of ~10% daily.

[Antoine]

@RaDeck said in Software update 2.37.48:

Just updating atm to 2.37.48. I’ll be monitoring battery consumption as last update had decreased Battery life. Hope to come back to prior range (9PP - roughly 20 days with full charge - mix use -> 5% per day). With the previous version I was more in the range of ~10% daily.

I also monitor battery of my suunto vertical solar.

I am around 10% in 24h.

With: no notification / no backlight / 1h running (without navigation) / HR active / blood oxygen / no buzz / K14 marine compass display with meteo, date, battery %.

For me there are still some battery drain issues (even if the one with navigation seems corrected or reduced)

[Tami999]

@Antoine said in Software update 2.37.48:

@RaDeck said in Software update 2.37.48:

Just updating atm to 2.37.48. I’ll be monitoring battery consumption as last update had decreased Battery life. Hope to come back to prior range (9PP - roughly 20 days with full charge - mix use -> 5% per day). With the previous version I was more in the range of ~10% daily.

I also monitor battery of my suunto vertical solar.

I am around 10% in 24h.

With: no notification / no backlight / 1h running (without navigation) / HR active / blood oxygen / no buzz / K14 marine compass display with meteo, date, battery %.

For me there are still some battery drain issues (even if the one with navigation seems corrected or reduced)

Same here. I lost 3% during sleep this night. In past I was losing 3 - 3.5% in 24h with 1h training non gps, all thing activated, raise to wake.

[rooldaa]

It’s been one week since I updated the watch (SV Solar) I lost around 56% during 7 days with around 14h of gps activities. After the update I haven’t recharged the watch and haven’t performed a soft beset. I am okay with these numbers.

[VoiGAS]

@rooldaa Really? I think one of the main reasons buying a vertical solar will be the battery lifetime. Maybe thats ok from a daily usage perspective, but according to the advertised data your battery lifetime should be muuuuuuuuch better.
So battery drain is not completly solved and the devices are not up to the promised performance

[Ghost]

Since the latest update on my Suunto Vertical, I’ve turned off 24/7 HR, sleep tracking, notification. Backlight low. I’m doing a one-hour run and a one-hour cycle every day, using custom mode with good GPS (no dual band) and always using the HR belt. With this setup, the battery lasts around 3 weeks, consuming a little over 30% per week. I’m not sure if this is normal since I haven’t used it this intensively before.

[surfboomerang]

@VoiGAS said in Software update 2.37.48:

but according to the advertised data your battery lifetime should be muuuuuuuuch better.

And that is based on…?

60h is advertised without solar, so 14 hrs of activities would be roughly the first 25%. Not including the use of maps, S+ apps etc.

Then add 7 days of watch mode (2%-3% a day without HR, sleep). Brings me to 46% as a rough estimate. Not knowing how @rooldaa was using the watch and knowing that battery drainage isn’t linear, I think those numbers quite match the advertised numbers.

[VoiGAS]

@surfboomerang You are using the SV values without solar, but @rooldaa is using the solar version. And even if he is living in complete darkness Suunto is promising 65 hours, not 60. Additionaly you calculated 46% vs 56% experienced. All in all this makes a big difference

So I don’t think I am wrong with my statement of a broken promise.

[Egika]

@VoiGAS data from a single user make you draw this conclusion? I thinks that’s a little steep…
We don’t know about backlight, notifications etc

[VoiGAS]

@Egika You are right, there can be special circumstances. But I guess you know all the posts about battery drain before the update and there are still some after the update.
If I would be one of the affected I would be upset. But I am lucky as it seems, my Race S behaves like advertised.

[sebchastang]

According to Suunto Vertical specs, you get 30 days with a 100% charge battery, 3.33% per day.
You get 65 hours of GPS activity with a 100% charge battery, 1.54% per hour of activity.
For 7 days as smartwatch (23.3% battery consumption) and 14 hours of GPS activity (21.5% battery consumption), you should drain approximately 45%.
56% should correspond to battery consumption for 7 days as smartwatch and 21 hours of GPS activity (50% more than 14 hours)
So I don’t think @VoiGAS is so wrong by saying it doesn’t match the advertised battery life.

I don’t want to polemic and I think we should not focus on the advertised battery life (which is usually obtained under best favorable conditions), but the fact is we have lost battery life since 2.35.34 firmware update.

I agree with @Egika, we cannot draw conclusions for everybody as there are so many use cases, but for the ones concerned by the battery drain issue, it is disappointing.
We should stay positive as Suunto proved us through latest firmware update they are working on the battery “issue”.

May we suggest dev team to check again all changes done with firmware 2.35.34 and find what causes much battery drain than before (maybe the battery improvements done is OK for specific usage but worse in other cases).
I would be glad to remove the battery improvement of the changelog and get back to a real 60 hours battery life instead of a 65 hours battery life difficult to reach.

Once again, I really enjoy my activities with my Suunto Vertical. I know I will never have the perfect watch, but Suunto watches are the ones which match my need the best (event with some little bugs ).

As a reminder :
Staged update starting on July 3rd 2024
This update brings new features, improvements and bug fixes.

New really cool features :
Climb guidance feature during navigation for routes with elevation data
Possibility to select watch face complications
Three new watch faces
Cumulative data fields as watch face complications
Second configurable short cut
Screen lock in watch mode
Map zooming now possible up to 20km
Data field on navigation screen
Automatic and customizable map re-center
Sport mode specific display settings
Browse back one screen in sport mode using long press middle button
New pause and exercise end user interface with possibility to browse screens
Vietnamese language support

Improvements and bug fixes:
Improvements in the battery life with GPS: Vertical 65h - Vertical Solar 90h - Race 50h
Improved Emoji support with more characters
Improved step counter to avoid misdetection from general hand movements
Faster UI browsing
New GNSS and OHR software

[Jesus Viñambres]

I have noticed that the whole sleep is not synchronized. The watch shows the real time and the App only a part of the dream. That is, if you get up or stay up late but go back to sleep, it no longer goes up to the App. Does anyone else happen to you?

[Ghost]

@Jesus-Viñambres You are not alone. https://forum.suunto.com/topic/11787/about-suunto-app-sleep-data-not-stable/10

[Jesus Viñambres]

@iterumtenta thanks

[karmazynowycukiereczek]

@Tieutieu W

@Tieutieu said in Software update 2.37.48:

Battery may need a full cycle discharge and charge for calibration.
No issue on my SRs, consumption seem ok after update.

What is “full cycle discharge”?
This is okey, can connect watch and charge it or cycle start when i full discharge watch and this information disappear?