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    surfboomerang @pilleus
    last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 16:57

    @pilleus Seems correct if the Ambit 3 algorithm is still used.

    This is a part of the user manual:
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      pilleus @surfboomerang
      last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 17:51

      @surfboomerang

      Since the update I have the horizontal arrow ➡️ on two watches without any changes. Yesterday the air pressure increases from 1014 to 1024 hPa within 7 hours and nothing happened with the arrow. 🤔

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        Audaxjoe @pilleus
        last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 17:59

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        Mine does change, so this isn’t affecting everyone. I guess you have tried a soft reset?

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          surfboomerang @pilleus
          last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 18:01

          @pilleus unfortunately I can’t test it right now since the weather here has been really stable the past days and seems continue to be in the upcoming week.

          Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
          OnePlus Nord 4

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            pilleus @Audaxjoe
            last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 18:07

            @Audaxjoe

            I did a soft reset in the morning (time in the attached picture). After six hours the horizontal arrow was shown. Air pressure decreased from 1024 to 1022 hPa in the meantime.

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              sartoric Moderator @pilleus
              last edited by sartoric 4 Jan 2025, 18:12 1 Apr 2025, 18:11

              @pilleus said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

              After six hours the horizontal arrow was shown. Air pressure decreased from 1024 to 1022 hPa in the meantime.

              2hPa in six hours is not triggering any “change” in baro trend … not even in 3 hours afair

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                pilleus @sartoric
                last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 18:33

                @sartoric

                For me the change from 1014 to 1024 hPa is a trend and was shown before the update as ↗️.

                We will see, if the ➡️ will change in the next few days.

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                  Devis @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by Devis 4 Jan 2025, 19:26 1 Apr 2025, 19:09

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                  Since I always pressed the down button to mark each length (25m), I circled some “50m” because the watch had already counted 25m for the previous lap and another 25m for the next lap. So, I think the watch overestimated the distance by +25m in these laps.
                  … probably I have not understand how the down button acts/syncronize with the watch distance algoritm.
                  Thanks for any your help.

                  Devis

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                    Александр Даниленко @Inge Nallsson
                    last edited by Александр Даниленко 4 Mar 2025, 11:15 3 Apr 2025, 11:10

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                    As a swimmer I fully agree with @Inge-Nallsson about lap button.

                    It is very strange logic, when watch show zero lap times when you dont swim. Or when they show a time they measured automatically after pressing lap button - I dont understand what is the point of lap button in this paradigm.

                    Automatic intervals time counting works good in Suunto, but definitely not perfect.

                    I found the way to make the watch count real times in the swimming by pressing lap button (using bug of completed stuctured workout, but that is another story) and found that still the automatic time counting isn’t that reliable.

                    As example I can show part of my last training session. Below on the screenshots you can see I did a set 10×100m breaststroke with rest time between 30~40 sec. For each 100m I counted manually, although keep in mind that manual lap counting in the swimming gives at least additional 2 second comparing to real time (because of delay press-swim-stop-press).

                    First screenshots is manual counting by pressing lap button (using bug). On the second screenshots is autimatic watch counting and my corrections:
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                    As you can see, the watch automatically count time as 1’33, but manual lap counting gave 1’31. As I explained above, manual counting give a delay at least for a 2 sec, so the real time for most intervals is ~1’29. So, at least 4 sec delay between real and automatically counted by the watch time.

                    They doesn’t always behave like that, adding time comparing to real. Often they ± coincide. Sometimes even give less. But you neven know it, until you start manually count the time, which is more reliable.

                    Moreover, if I do leg kicking sets (the watch doesn’t count distance there), it is very unfortunate that lap button always give me zero times. There are also sets like 10×50m legs kicking where we need to control the time, but the watch doesn’t give that opportunity (until using the bug…which doesn’t even sound normal).

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                      pavel.samokha @Matthias Jäggli
                      last edited by 3 Apr 2025, 11:51

                      @Matthias-Jäggli I understand your frustration, feeling the same and it’s a known issue, which unfortunately has some technical reasons. We will work on fixing this, but it can take time and we still need to do the updates.

                      Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                        Maoris
                        last edited by 3 Apr 2025, 14:14

                        Hi,

                        I have issues with HRV measurements. It started with the faulty update in 2024. I downgraded the firmware, but it didn’t really help. I was hoping the issue would be fixed with the newest update, but it wasn’t.

                        The current firmware version: 2.40.38

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                        After the firmware update, I reset the watch to factory settings, but this didn’t help either.

                        Any suggestions?

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                          Александр Даниленко @pavel.samokha
                          last edited by 3 Apr 2025, 14:58

                          @pavel.samokha

                          People wrote about this, but I will also add.

                          Sleep tracking and resources counting stopped on my Race S. HR sensors is working, calories are counting.

                          It worked good until I rebooted the watch yesterday.

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                            Peter Pan 0 @Łukasz Szmigiel
                            last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 07:36

                            @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                            Hello where can I get this view? Is it part of the app? Any additional software needed?
                            Thanks

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                              Łukasz Szmigiel @Peter Pan 0
                              last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 07:37

                              @Peter-Pan-0 which view are you referring to?

                              S9PP 2.40.38

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                                Mff73 @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 11:59

                                @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                                probably the view of your app 😉 with battery stats, etc…

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                                  Łukasz Szmigiel @Peter Pan 0
                                  last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 13:07

                                  @Peter-Pan-0 check this out:

                                  https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9249/sml-track-viewer-a-handy-little-tool-for-analysing-track-quality-and-battery-stats

                                  S9PP 2.40.38

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                                    Peter Pan 0 @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                    last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 13:30

                                    @Łukasz-Szmigiel Well done. TY

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                                      matthinsh Bronze Member @Ars Vitae
                                      last edited by 5 Apr 2025, 10:37

                                      @Ars-Vitae said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                      What’s the difference between Running Track and Track Running?

                                      Does anyone know the answer to this? Is the new Track Running sport mode like the modes on Coros and Garmin, where you can input the lane you’re in and it’ll record each lap really accurately?

                                      This is very useful for track sessions.

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                                        Mff73 @matthinsh
                                        last edited by 5 Apr 2025, 11:44

                                        @matthinsh
                                        Maybe 😉

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                                          sky-runner Silver Members @mabe2k
                                          last edited by 5 Apr 2025, 16:32

                                          @mabe2k said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                          @sky-runner Also the arrow for the direction should be a little bit larger. I really like the fact, that it’s not longer full screen, but the current style is too small for my eyes. It’s really hard to see. Especially, if it appears a second before you have to turn.

                                          Yes, fully agree. Most of the time I can’t tell what the next turn is supposed to be even if I manage to briefly see it.

                                          Has there been any official response from the Suunto team with regards to the new navigation guidance? In my opinion, this change has been rushed in without a proper UX research and the overall user experience has become worse, and this is quite a bit less usable than it is used to be. Is there a plan to revisit this again? Please let us know!

                                          Should we do a poll about the preferred navigation guidance?

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